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re: ESPN 30 for 30: Ghosts of Ole Miss

Posted on 10/30/12 at 8:22 pm to
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 10/30/12 at 8:22 pm to
when he was a kid, the klan burned a cross in his families yard because of something political. His parents decided to let him sleep and not show him the burning cross from what I understand.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 10/30/12 at 8:23 pm to
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interesting, I didn't know this.


The Confederate Grays were always considered to be one of the best dressed regiments in the army. Going into every battle they would always clean up to look their best.
That's why the fraternities and a lot of fans dress up. To look their best when we're going into battle like the Confederate Grays did.
Posted by tigerskin
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Posted on 10/30/12 at 8:23 pm to
I enjoyed it and also hope they get From Dixie With Love back.
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 10/30/12 at 8:23 pm to
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How did the segregated SEC fare against other integrated teams back then?

I don't know the details on this at the moment. I do know that LSU's first black player is currently homeless at the moment.
Posted by Rebelgator
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Posted on 10/30/12 at 8:25 pm to
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He likes Mississippi more than Bundy.


Oh now you've done it.
Posted by jose
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Posted on 10/30/12 at 8:25 pm to
Oh gotcha. They talked about him alot and I was unsure of why they kept talking about him
Posted by RedHawk
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Posted on 10/30/12 at 8:26 pm to
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I don't know the details on this at the moment. I do know that LSU's first black player is currently homeless at the moment.


I know that Bear Bryant wanted integration at Alabama after getting his but kicked by an integrated USC team.

Iowa won the Rose Bowl in 1956 and 58 including winning the Grantland Rice National Championship in 58. Almost their whole team was black. They probably had more black players then than they do now.
Posted by vl100butch
Ridgeland, MS
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 10/30/12 at 8:27 pm to
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on top of that our first president was william t. sherman and we had been integrated comparatively peacefully several years before

wait what?


LSU's first president was William T. Sherman....that's why the ROTC building is unnamed...

and LSU had been integrated back in the 50's
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 10/30/12 at 8:28 pm to
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and LSU had been integrated back in the 50's

I wouldn't go so far to say it was peaceful or at least from my grandfather & his two sisters accounts it wasn't.


***They were in the grad school program at LSU.
This post was edited on 10/30/12 at 8:29 pm
Posted by vl100butch
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Posted on 10/30/12 at 8:30 pm to
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I wouldn't go so far to say it was peaceful or at least from my grandfather & his two sisters accounts it wasn't.


***They were in the grad school program at LSU.


i did say relatively peacefully as opposed to what happened at Ole Miss
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 10/30/12 at 8:31 pm to
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He likes Mississippi more than Bundy


Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
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Posted on 10/30/12 at 8:31 pm to
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He likes Mississippi more than Bundy.


Not so sure about that.
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 10/30/12 at 8:31 pm to
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i did say relatively peacefully as opposed to what happened at Ole Miss

true, LSU didn't have a riot.

But people were just as rude and hateful from what I understand.

Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 10/30/12 at 8:32 pm to
Was the Phi Mu ASB President being called a racial slur by a student a necessary detail?

It seemed so vague and forced into the film... just seemed unnecessary, IMO.
This post was edited on 10/30/12 at 8:33 pm
Posted by RebFeBrees
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 10/30/12 at 8:33 pm to
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It looked like some people in the Grove were eyeballing him.



Maybe because he was walking by with a camera crew?
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 10/30/12 at 8:33 pm to
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I know that Bear Bryant wanted integration at Alabama after getting his but kicked by an integrated USC team.



One of the most misunderstood stories about Bryant. The team was already integrated. Wilbur Jakson was a freshman in 1970. However, he was ineligible under NCAA rules on freshmen at the time. There were also multiple "test cases" of African-American walk-ons as early as 1966.

When Alabama played USC in the Los Angeles the next year (1971), an African-American JuCo transfer in John Mitchell was a big part of the win.
Posted by undecided
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Posted on 10/30/12 at 8:33 pm to
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The Confederate Grays were always considered to be one of the best dressed regiments in the army. Going into every battle they would always clean up to look their best. That's why the fraternities and a lot of fans dress up. To look their best when we're going into battle like the Confederate Grays did.

This is what Ole Miss should highlight. Wright Thompson told the story of the Confederate Grays on Finebaum earlier and it was the first time I ever heard an explication for the Rebel mascot.

I think people would be more understanding of a noble ideal than the whole, "South Will Rise Again" message. War Eagle originated in the Civil War so it can be done.

SN: If you haven't seen Ken Burn's 2012, "Death and the Civil War", it's worth a watch if you're a history buff
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 10/30/12 at 8:34 pm to
I think it was there to show that race relations are better at Ole Miss. I mean she is the first black SGA president & she's the only black member of her sorority. In some cases, that's a big step for an SEC school.


Am I the only one who wishes Thompson would have contacted his family member or what he thought was his family member?
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 10/30/12 at 8:36 pm to
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Was the Phi Mu ASB President being called a racial slur by a student a necessary detail?


No. It kind of pissed me off they threw that in there. It wasn't needed at all.
Posted by Rebelgator
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Posted on 10/30/12 at 8:36 pm to
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Was the Phi Mu ASB President being called a racial slur by a student a necessary detail?


That was one of the few issues I had with the piece.
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