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re: Ed Orgeron: Most LSU players have caught COVID-19, believed to be fit to play

Posted on 9/15/20 at 12:07 pm to
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 9/15/20 at 12:07 pm to
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Asked for specifics, Orgeron says he's not sure the percentage of team that has caught it, but says his point was most who did have recovered and believed to be fit to play this season and at low risk of catching it again.


So he actually doesn’t know who had it

What a genius
This post was edited on 9/15/20 at 12:08 pm
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36528 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 12:13 pm to
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texag7-50


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Asked for specifics, Orgeron says he's not sure the percentage of team


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So he actually doesn’t know who had it


Or it's just.............none of your fricking business, aggy.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64569 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 12:40 pm to
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Haven’t most of LSU’s players opted out though?

Neil Farrell opted out months ago and opted back in yesterday. Tyler Shelvin opted out a couple weeks ago and is considering opting back in. Kary Vincent and Jamarr Chase declared for the draft. Those are the only "opt outs" with two of those not being opt outs but simply declaring for the draft.

Two others, Justin Thomas and TK McClendon, are transferring.

There is smoke for Nelson Jenkins, a RS Sophomore defensive lineman, opting out that came out today. He appeared in one game in 2018 (Rice) and redshirted last year. He's been on the scout team and had recently been moved from DE to DT, but not sure how far down the rotation he was expected to be or how much playing time he may have had. We've never seen him play, so I can't even tell you how good he was/is.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64569 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 12:42 pm to
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So he actually doesn’t know who had it


Do you know how to read? He says he doesn't know the exact percentage. And HIPAA laws prevent him from disclosing who exactly has contracted the virus. But you know that already.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64569 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 12:44 pm to
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Given that some who have already contacted the virus have gotten ill again

False. There has been ONE very suspect case in the entire world where someone has allegedly contracted it twice. This report came out of China. You can take anything "reports" coming from there with a huge grain of salt.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 12:48 pm to
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The NCAA has made "contact tracing" more punitive than an actual person who tested positive. Given that some who have already contacted the virus have gotten ill again, it's hard to see how the NCAA is going to make anyone the exception to the rule.


NCAA protocol is ridiculous and doesn’t even follow the almighty “CDC guidelines”
Posted by kmcmah1
Member since Mar 2009
1073 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 12:49 pm to
Nah we just covered up some deaths REALLY well.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64569 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 12:50 pm to
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NCAA protocol is ridiculous and doesn’t even follow the almighty “CDC guidelines”



Don't you know, when the CDC dialed back their guidelines, the Democrats said they were wrong after hailing them as infallible prior. This whole thing has become a clown show at this point.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 12:50 pm to
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Do you know how to read? He says he doesn't know the exact percentage. And HIPAA laws prevent him from disclosing who exactly has contracted the virus. But you know that already.



This is the other dumb thing in all of this. Injury reports are public knowledge. This should be no different
Posted by bamameister
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Member since May 2016
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Posted on 9/15/20 at 12:53 pm to
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False. There has been ONE very suspect case in the entire world where someone has allegedly contracted it twice. This report came out of China. You can take anything "reports" coming from there with a huge grain of salt.



Doesn't matter. The NCAA has made its protocol for handling this virus public. It is what it is. And nowhere does it read about the exception to the rule.
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
29410 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 1:02 pm to
This is great news from orgeron .I believe the majority that got it ,did so whenever that story came out about us having 30 to 40 different people, that are in the football operations ,quarinted.

It's possible to probable that there haven't been any new cases.all orgeron said is that w most of the team had it. Sorry to be so redundant ,but that's probably what o was talking about
If there are recent cases also that's actually a good thing, for herd immunity.unless they are seriously effected then that's not good ,but we have enough time to pass the requirements to get back with the team,even if theres a case today.

Laugh now at us ,but when your starting qb gets it and misses 2 games ,then you will wish your team was getting sick in the offseason instead of the iron bowl or something.

This post was edited on 9/15/20 at 1:05 pm
Posted by js1591
Member since Jan 2020
2664 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 1:06 pm to
Once you catch COVID and recover, you are immune and can not catch it again.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64569 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 1:09 pm to
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This is the other dumb thing in all of this. Injury reports are public knowledge. This should be no different

Yeah, I'm not sure where the difference lies legally. I'm sure they sign waivers in regards to coaches disclosing injury reports. I have no idea what the verbiage is on those waivers and how this wouldn't fall under that waiver. You'll hear coaches, specifically in baseball and basketball where they play more games throughout the week, talk about so and so getting the flu or whatever, so I have found it unusual that coaches are keeping names of positive COVID tests out of the media. It would be nice to hear an explanation as to why exactly that has been the case and why the HIPAA waivers aren't applying. I've heard several coaches mention HIPAA specifically when asked about COVID tests on the team.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31033 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 1:09 pm to
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Given that some who have already contacted the virus have gotten ill again,



Given the fact you are full of shite and no ody has gotten the virus again. Not one documented case at all.

Don't post people claiming they have either because it's bullshite. Otherwise a vaccine wouldn't work.

The contact tracing is complete horseshite!!!
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64569 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 1:17 pm to
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Doesn't matter. The NCAA has made its protocol for handling this virus public. It is what it is. And nowhere does it read about the exception to the rule.

These protocols are not NCAA protocols but rather conference and local mandates. The NCAA protocols are as follows:

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The guidelines are designed to inform schools in responding appropriately based on their specific circumstances and in the best interest of returning college athletes’ health and well-being. Many sports require close, personal contact and require specially crafted guidelines. Among the recommendations put forth:

- Daily self-health checks.
- The appropriate use of face coverings and social distancing during training, competition and outside of athletics.
- Testing strategies for all athletics activities, including pre-season, regular season and post-season.
- Testing and results within 72 hours of competition in high contact risk sports.
- Member schools must adhere to public health standards set by their local communities.



LINK

The SEC, however, has set these protocols
LINK

However, schools in certain states that have more strict local mandates for testing protocols, must comply with those in addition to the SEC guidelines. For instance, the State of Tennessee and Knox County has more stringent protocols than the conference. The quarantine period at the conference level is 10 days, whereas it's 14 days in Knoxville under local mandates.
This post was edited on 9/15/20 at 1:19 pm
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
13164 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 1:59 pm to
I like it. My daughter and her husband tested positive for Covid-19, got over it and tested negative about 2 weeks later. Both are back at work now. In a year after a vaccine has been released, it will be like another strain of coronavirus flu.
Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
7918 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 2:09 pm to
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tigerland


Yep, a few nights out in that petri dish got LSU immunized pretty well.
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
22748 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 3:50 pm to
I said this months ago when LSU and Clemson had "outbreaks" that ran through most of the team.

They should have put the whole team in a room and partied for 2 straight days so everyone would get asymptomatic cases and then they'd be clear for the rest of the year.

LSU and Clemson will never have guys miss much time this year because they all got it early and now won't get it again.
Posted by bamameister
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Member since May 2016
14076 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 3:56 pm to
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The contact tracing is complete horseshite!!!




Why don't you just hold your breathe and close your eyes? Maybe all this "contact tracing" protocol by the NCAA will just go away.

Otherwise, the reality is that any team can lose a ton of players for any game because a few happen to test positive and now you know the rest of the story. Reality can be a bummer.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64569 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 4:08 pm to
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Otherwise, the reality is that any team can lose a ton of players for any game because a few happen to test positive and now you know the rest of the story. Reality can be a bummer.

He was responding to your saying that we know people can get COVID twice. You used that as a basis for why the NCAA has these protocols and why they won't change. Given the premise that people have twice been infected with COVID is objectively false, your argument as to why the NCAA won't change protocols is without merit. There may be another reason to argue why they won't change their protocols, so maybe start there instead of getting defensive when people check you when you make arguments that are not based in fact. As of today, there is no evidence to support anyone in college football (or the world) having contracted COVID, recovered, and contracted COVID again. That hasn't happened.

Further, as has already been addressed ITT, these aren't the NCAA's protocols. These are the SEC's and local government's protocols. The NCAA doesn't have protocols that mandate quarantines for contact tracing. So really, your entire argument falls on its face because you don't seem to have an understanding about the rules you're discussing or the data of the virus itself.
This post was edited on 9/15/20 at 4:41 pm
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