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re: DSOR: Herschel or Bo?
Posted on 11/15/13 at 10:52 am to CapstoneGrad06
Posted on 11/15/13 at 10:52 am to CapstoneGrad06
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I don't think it is "by far". Hershel carried the ball far more times. Look at Bo's YPC.
But Herschel was unstoppable from the moment he stepped foot on the field as a freshman. His worst year is slightly worse than Bo's best year.
Posted on 11/15/13 at 10:52 am to Rickdaddy4188
Bo had greater YPC, yards per reception and yards per touch. One could venture to say that had Bo had as many touches as Herschel, his numbers would all be better.
Posted on 11/15/13 at 10:52 am to orangehater
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Helping prove the point. Bo couldn't even get the majority of touches on his own team.
Posted on 11/15/13 at 10:53 am to undecided
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Hershel or Bo?
Toby Gerhart
Posted on 11/15/13 at 10:54 am to Gotta have DeZeier
I'm confused why this thread is still ongoing when the best running back in college football history's name is spelled wrong in the OP.
Posted on 11/15/13 at 10:54 am to Rickdaddy4188
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But Herschel was unstoppable from the moment he stepped foot on the field as a freshman. His worst year is slightly worse than Bo's best year.
because he got so many damn carries
HW had 344 more touches, yet only scored a few more TDs and only had 1k more yards.
Bo averaged 1.4 more yards per touch than HW
Bo averaged a TD every 15 touches vs HW every 19.6 touches
This post was edited on 11/15/13 at 10:57 am
Posted on 11/15/13 at 10:54 am to boddagetta
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Bo had greater YPC, yards per reception and yards per touch. One could venture to say that had Bo had as many touches as Herschel, his numbers would all be better.
Some of the time adding carries means your ypc averages go down. It's the reason that ypc records have a minimum number of carries asterisk.
Posted on 11/15/13 at 10:55 am to boddagetta
And there's that whole baseball thing that Bo had going. So to be able to perform at a high level in two sports seems to give Bo the edge beyond just being "a good athlete"
Posted on 11/15/13 at 10:57 am to boddagetta
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Bo had greater YPC, yards per reception and yards per touch. One could venture to say that had Bo had as many touches as Herschel, his numbers would all be better.
Point taken, but it's also way easier to have a higher YPC when not everyone knows you're getting the ball. Bo evidently wasn't carrying the ball all the time for Auburn, so it would be much harder for a defense to key on him.
Most important stats for Herschel: 0 SEC losses, 3 SEC Championships, 1 National Championship. No one can touch that.
Posted on 11/15/13 at 10:57 am to undecided
Anyone who says HW has an axe to grind. I hate Auburn as much as anyone, but the answer is Bo. The only reason anyone can even argue HW is the amount of carries he got.
This post was edited on 11/15/13 at 10:58 am
Posted on 11/15/13 at 10:57 am to Rickdaddy4188
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ome of the time adding carries means your ypc averages go down. It's the reason that ypc records have a minimum number of carries asterisk.
and guess what it also inflates your total yards
Posted on 11/15/13 at 10:57 am to undecided
So what were the Heisman voters missing that you can see now when they voted Herschel top 3 in the Heisman every year?
For reference, Bo finished in the top 10 once.
Not saying the Heisman is the be all end all ranking, but don't those results at least somewhat speak to who had the better career?
For reference, Bo finished in the top 10 once.
Not saying the Heisman is the be all end all ranking, but don't those results at least somewhat speak to who had the better career?
Posted on 11/15/13 at 10:57 am to RunLindsayRun
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I'm confused why this thread is still ongoing when the best running back in college football history's name is spelled wrong in the OP.
Sorry, I was thinking of one of Herschel's other personalities. The one without a "c" My bad
Posted on 11/15/13 at 10:59 am to RunLindsayRun
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I'm confused why this thread is still ongoing when the best running back in college football history's name is spelled wrong in the OP.
I've noticed that all week. Pretty sure they're doing it on purpose as some sort of retarded insult.
Posted on 11/15/13 at 10:59 am to orangehater
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Helping prove the point. Bo couldn't even get the majority of touches on his own team. Herschel's team lacked greatly in talent and everyone knew he was getting the ball yet it didn't matter. He averaged 159 ypg for his career. 5259 in three years.
By that mentality, Eddie Lacy shouldn't be the better of Ingram and Richardson, but he is. By far.
Posted on 11/15/13 at 10:59 am to NYCAuburn
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Bo averaged 1.4 more yards per touch than HW
Usually the more carries you get ( over a season) your ypc decrease. Usually. Not always but usually.
I shouldn't have said by far Herschel was better because Bo was great as well. I think it's more of a 1a and 1b in ALLTIME rbs in the sec. Kevin Faulk was great too but not on the level of those two.
Posted on 11/15/13 at 10:59 am to Rickdaddy4188
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Some of the time adding carries means your ypc averages go down. It's the reason that ypc records have a minimum number of carries asterisk.
After you get to a certain number of carries it can go up or down. The reason there's a minimum number of carries is because YPC numbers for a really small number of carries aren't statistically relevant. You can realistically scale Bo's numbers up given the # of carries he and HW both had.
Posted on 11/15/13 at 11:01 am to CapstoneGrad06
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By that mentality, Eddie Lacy shouldn't be the better of Ingram and Richardson, but he is. By far.
In college TRich was better than Lacy.
Posted on 11/15/13 at 11:01 am to undecided
As a RB? Herschel. Not close
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