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re: Dormant SEC OOC Rivalries
Posted on 2/11/14 at 11:11 am to TbirdSpur2010
Posted on 2/11/14 at 11:11 am to TbirdSpur2010
And its funny a gator is trying to give us shite for "running away" when they did the same thing to the U
Posted on 2/11/14 at 11:13 am to Tornado Alley
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Non-SEC, OOC (past or present) FBS schools that SEC schools have played 20+ times
Arkansas v. Tulsa - 68 games
Florida v. Florida State - 59 games
Ole Miss v. Memphis - 59 games
Georgia v. Clemson - 58 games
Florida v. Miami - 55 games
LSU v. Rice - 55 games
Auburn v. Clemson - 48 games
Mississippi State v. Memphis - 44 games
Alabama v. Southern Miss - 42 games
Kentucky v. Indiana - 33 games
Tennessee v. North Carolina - 29 games
Tennessee v. Duke - 28 games
Mississippi State v. Southern Miss - 27 games
Kentucky v. Cincinnati - 24 games
Kentucky v. Louisville - 23 games
Georgia v. North Carolina - 23 games
Ole Miss v. Southern Miss - 23 games
Missouri v. Illinois - 23 games
Tennessee v. Memphis - 23 games
Auburn v. Southern Miss - 22 games
LSU v. University of Louisiana - 22 games
Ole Miss v. Arkansas State - 22 games
No love for us and our ole ACC rivals? UNC, NC St., UVA? etc. in particular. Sure a lot of our history with them obviously had to do with conference ties but even after leaving the ACC after the 1970 season, especially since we were independent for so long. In fact, joining the SEC killed off a lot of these (as you'd expect)
SC - UNC: 56 times, 12 times after leaving the ACC, only 2 after joining the SEC, a 3rd is scheduled in Charlotte soon.
SC - NC St: 57 times, 24 times after leaving the ACC, only 3 times after joining the SEC. Pretty much played them every year after becoming independent.
SC - UVA: 34 times, 9 times after leaving the ACC, only twice since joining the SEC.
SC - GT: 21 times, 12 times after leaving the ACC, never since joining the SEC.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 11:13 am to LSUFOREVERAMEN
USC-UNC
USC-ECU
USC-NC State
Surprised nobody has mentioned USC-UNC yet. Game was chippy as hell this year. Although the UNC and ECU series aren't exactly dormant with future games scheduled.
USC-ECU
USC-NC State
Surprised nobody has mentioned USC-UNC yet. Game was chippy as hell this year. Although the UNC and ECU series aren't exactly dormant with future games scheduled.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 11:13 am to WestCoastAg
Damn I hadn't even thought of that angle
Oh Korin, care to comment?
Oh Korin, care to comment?
Posted on 2/11/14 at 11:18 am to WestCoastAg
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I'm just laughing now
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Ok I am getting a headache so I'll leave this in y'all's capable hands and go find something that hasn't been discussed to death on several occasions.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 11:20 am to TbirdSpur2010
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Damn I hadn't even thought of that angle
Oh Korin, care to comment?
Which I won't deny, unlike y'all.
Edit: We've played more final ranked teams than any other program though, so I'm not sure if you want to go down that road.
This post was edited on 2/11/14 at 11:21 am
Posted on 2/11/14 at 11:23 am to Korin
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Which I won't deny, unlike y'all.
So not only do you completely ignore the fact that texas killed our rivalry with them, you also are completely hypocritical in trying to call out TAMU for "running away" from a rivalry when by your own admission that would be following y'all's precedent anyway
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We've played more final ranked teams than any other program though, so I'm not sure if you want to go down that road.
What does that have to do with ending rivalries?
Oh yeah, not a got damn thing.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 11:24 am to LSUFOREVERAMEN
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Any other good ones Im forgetting?
We played Oklahoma St. yearly for a while before they threw the white flag and quit the series.
30-15-1.
We did play Tulsa annually for a while, but that game lost the interest of the fan base in the past three decades or so.
SMU is a team I'd like to play again/more, they hated us.
37-31-1
Posted on 2/11/14 at 11:24 am to TbirdSpur2010
I threw that in because you've said before in the past that we never play anyone.
You know, despite the fact that we've played more eos ranked teams than any other program.
You know, despite the fact that we've played more eos ranked teams than any other program.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 11:24 am to TigerintheNO
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If 'texas bitched out' means that they beat Arkansas 52-10 and then y'all canceled the series, then you are right.
The game was pushed back to 2014/15, then in 2010 after Arkansas made a BCS bowl Texas pushed it back to 2020/if ever.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 11:27 am to Korin
quote:and yet you guys conveniently stopped playing the U when they were dominating the college football world? interesting
You know, despite the fact that we've played more eos ranked teams than any other program
Posted on 2/11/14 at 11:28 am to TbirdSpur2010
From this outsider's perspective, it appears UT initially said "no" to the UT-aTm series in 2011 in the wake of aTm's transition to the SEC. Fast forward two years to last November (three months ago), and it now appears aTm is the school saying "no" to the regular season series. That is what I got from reading the Korin-linked article.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 11:31 am to Korin
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I threw that in because you've said before in the past that we never play anyone.
When? I haven't said anything like that in this thread or elsewhere. You're mistaken.
I don't even think about Florida enough to warrant bemoaning who y'all play and don't play. Y'all are in the East. It's inconsequential to A&M for the most part.
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You know, despite the fact that we've played more eos ranked teams than any other program.
You keep trying to shift the argument to this. Again, I don't really care who y'all have or haven't played. Hell, I'm not even trying to make this about UF--just showing that your little "running away" narrative is pure horseshite.
This post was edited on 2/11/14 at 11:37 am
Posted on 2/11/14 at 11:35 am to Spread
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From this outsider's perspective, it appears UT initially said "no" to the UT-aTm series in 2011 in the wake of aTm's transition to the SEC. Fast forward two years to last November (three months ago), and it now appears aTm is the school saying "no" to the regular season series. That is what I got from reading the Korin-linked article.
Read them again. In neither of those articles does Texas say they wish to renew the series. In fact, the closest either comes is the SI article talking about a tweet from an anonymous texas "higher-up" that the series could "perhaps" resume.
We haven't said "no" to anything, because there's nothing official to say "no," to. The last official word we have from texas on the matter is that they are full through at least 2017 with their OOC schedule. So, naturally we'll be happy to play them in the postseason if the fates allow, but we'll not grovel at their feet begging for the series to resume when they already told us to frick off. We aren't on retainer
Posted on 2/11/14 at 11:36 am to Spread
quote:except his articles state nothing about the horns wanting to renew the series
), and it now appears aTm is the school saying "no" to the regular season series. That is what I got from reading the Korin-linked article.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 11:38 am to Spread
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From this outsider's perspective, it appears UT initially said "no" to the UT-aTm series in 2011 in the wake of aTm's transition to the SEC. Fast forward two years to last November (three months ago), and it now appears aTm is the school saying "no" to the regular season series. That is what I got from reading the Korin-linked article.
And it doesn't make sense to completely blame the school that a) won the last meeting and b) dominates the overall series.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 11:43 am to Korin
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it doesn't make sense to completely blame the school that a) won the last meeting and b) dominates the overall series.
What do either of those have to do with them saying they do not wish to schedule us OOC?
You're just dredging up flame points. Neither of which negate the fact that texas killed the series when TAMU still offered to play after the SEC move.
I know you want to hate on aggy here, but try and see the logic here.
Or don't. I'm being entertained greatly
Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:18 pm to WestCoastAg
My thoughts on the matter:
A lot of people don't realize it, but Miami was Florida's traditional rival, not FSU--for decades. Then, the FSU-Miami rivalry kind of replaced the UF-Miami rivalry in the 80's and left the Gators on the sidelines. It was only when UF got really good under Spurrier that the UF-FSU "rivalry" got underway, but there is not much tradition behind it.....and I, too, think UF is a little reluctant to put Miami back on the schedule for fear of losing (the same reason Ole Miss dropped Southern Miss many years ago).
As for Ole Miss and Memphis, that was traditionally the "warm-up" game for Ole Miss and then Memphis made it competitive and a lot of Ole Miss fans didn't like that and wanted the game cancelled, so it was. It makes sense to play it, though, because when the game is played in Memphis, there are more Ole Miss fans than Memphis fans in the stadium, so it is more like another home game without actually counting as one.
Ole Miss lost its traditional OOC rival when Arkansas joined the SEC--prior to that, Ole Miss and Arkansas had played on a regular basis. In fact, Ole Miss was just about the only team that ever played Arkansas in the regular season before they joined the SEC.
Vanderbilt should play either Duke or Tulane every year--a no-brainer and I don't understand why they don't.
A lot of people don't realize it, but Miami was Florida's traditional rival, not FSU--for decades. Then, the FSU-Miami rivalry kind of replaced the UF-Miami rivalry in the 80's and left the Gators on the sidelines. It was only when UF got really good under Spurrier that the UF-FSU "rivalry" got underway, but there is not much tradition behind it.....and I, too, think UF is a little reluctant to put Miami back on the schedule for fear of losing (the same reason Ole Miss dropped Southern Miss many years ago).
As for Ole Miss and Memphis, that was traditionally the "warm-up" game for Ole Miss and then Memphis made it competitive and a lot of Ole Miss fans didn't like that and wanted the game cancelled, so it was. It makes sense to play it, though, because when the game is played in Memphis, there are more Ole Miss fans than Memphis fans in the stadium, so it is more like another home game without actually counting as one.
Ole Miss lost its traditional OOC rival when Arkansas joined the SEC--prior to that, Ole Miss and Arkansas had played on a regular basis. In fact, Ole Miss was just about the only team that ever played Arkansas in the regular season before they joined the SEC.
Vanderbilt should play either Duke or Tulane every year--a no-brainer and I don't understand why they don't.
This post was edited on 2/11/14 at 12:20 pm
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