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re: Does UGA win both titles with Fromm at QB?

Posted on 5/21/23 at 6:21 pm to
Posted by FireDanMullen
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Posted on 5/21/23 at 6:21 pm to
Stetson is twice the QB Fromm was. Fromm cost UGA a title in 2017.

Fromm played very well against us in his career - absolutely torched us on 3rd down - and had a good game against Bama in the 2018 SEC championship and shite the bed against all other good to great competition in his career.

If a UGA fan picks Fromm over Bennett they are retarded.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/21/23 at 6:40 pm to
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Stetson is twice the QB Fromm was

You are stretching it a bit.
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Fromm cost UGA a title in 2017.

The weakness of the 2017 team was defensive backs.
Jeremy Pruitt did a great job finding diamonds on the rough. But those 3 stars weren't prepared to beat NFL level Sunday players.
We were not that talented on the backend in 2017. Particularly at nickel, dime, and safety.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
15932 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 8:13 pm to
Does the defense stay the same? Because they won on defense not because of anything Bennett did.
Posted by Gman84
Member since Aug 2021
683 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 8:37 pm to
Fromm never threw it between the hash. Like never. Always back-shoulder sidelines stuff. He was good at it but extremely 1 dimensional. Hard to believe it worked as well as it did. Having Chubb and Michel had something to do with it.
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/21/23 at 8:40 pm to
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Did you graduate?


From McNeese apparently.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25593 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 8:42 pm to
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Having Chubb and Michel had something to do with it.


It was a similar strategy with Hutson Mason.
Throwing wide helps the run game. Hutson would have been perfect for a Chris Petersen offense. But our best players were the running backs, so he was tasked with a completely different scheme.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/21/23 at 8:45 pm to
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Does the defense stay the same? Because they won on defense not because of anything Bennett did.



Posted by FireDanMullen
Member since Dec 2020
2710 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 11:06 pm to
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The weakness of the 2017 team was defensive backs.


Almost every championship team has weak points, few are elite at every position. Georgia’s secondary played well enough to win the game.

A singular play that was a busted coverage in OT cost UGA the title but the defense — including the secondary — played well enough in the game to have won it. Fromm choked that game away. He was clueless almost the entire 2nd half.
Posted by FireDanMullen
Member since Dec 2020
2710 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 11:10 pm to
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You are stretching it a bit.


I’m not. I actually give Bennett more credit than most do. He was a gunslinger. And I said that long before UGA fans got on board too I might add.

I stand by what I said. Fromm played phenomenal against us and well against Bama in the 2018 SEC championship. Every other game he played in against great competition — where Georgia couldn’t line up every play and out-talent the other team — he was an incredibly mediocre QB.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 5/22/23 at 5:42 am to
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This is just an outside observance, but Fromm regressed year to year for whatever reason. Stetson's growth from 21-22 was pretty amazing honestly and for whatever reason opposing fans don't want to acknowledge that. I'll take 22 Stetson any day over 19 Fromm.



This is spot on. Fromm was really good when someone was battling him for his spot...when he was comfortably in his spot he regressed badly for whatever reason. The improvement that Bennett made from year one is pretty remarkable by any measure...
Posted by madmaxvol
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 5/22/23 at 8:09 am to
I pose a different question for you...does UGA win both (or either title) with Eric Zeier (in my opinion, one of the most underrated QBs in SEC History) at QB?

Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32854 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 8:13 am to
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when he was comfortably in his spot he regressed badly for whatever reason.


A mess at WR
James coley OC
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42479 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 8:16 am to
Monken definitely was the difference
Maybe Monken would have helped Fromm, who knows
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41669 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 9:12 am to
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A mess at WR
James coley OC
This.

It’s like fans have mentally blocked out 2019. A transfer made out of glass was our most dependable WR that season.

I think Fromm would have done well with our offense and with Monken in 2021 and 2022, but I wouldn’t change things from how they were. Bennett changed my mind in 21 and I’m glad he came back to get another natty the following year.
Posted by Dawg4Life47
Beach
Member since Sep 2013
8431 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 12:18 pm to
I don't think we do. Fromm always had one or two games per year where he looked lost for some reason.

Stetson figured shite out after Natty in 2021.

He said Monken taught him how to "play" football. A light must have gone off last off season
Posted by Floyd Dawg
Silver Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2018
3900 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 12:32 pm to
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This is just an outside observance, but Fromm regressed year to year for whatever reason.


Completely correct. Freshman Jake Fromm has a great chance to win either of the national title games; junior Jake Fromm has zero chance.

For whatever reason, the kid refused/was scared to throw the ball over the middle of the field.
Posted by MackDaddyBrown
Member since Jul 2021
3740 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 12:59 pm to
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Stetson virtually won 2 national championships without a healthy true X receiver.

And yet you're still 1980 without AD Mitchell
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25593 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 1:32 pm to
That's an easy game to play.

Texas is still 1969 without Matt Nordgren (backup QB 2005).
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86463 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 1:34 pm to
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Stetson is twice the QB Fromm was


stetson is better, but this is a massive stretch. Fromm with MOnken and Stetson with Coley/Chaney woudl paint a differnet picture for you I'm sure

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Fromm cost UGA a title in 2017.


how the frick did you come to this conclusion?

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hite the bed against all other good to great competition in his career.


again...give fromm monken and 2 of the best defenses we've ever fielded in history and something tells me we don't look quite as bad. Also that's not even close to true. He beat multiple highly ranked AU teams, OU int he rose bowl, a top 10 UK team with the east on the line, a top 20 MSu that just blew out LSu, etc.

Fromm's only real downer on his resume was being unable to beat alabama, but there are porobably about a hudred or so QBs over the last 15 yeras in the exact same boat.
This post was edited on 5/22/23 at 1:37 pm
Posted by Springlake Tiger
Uptown
Member since Aug 2006
15531 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 1:40 pm to
my observations from far away.

Fromm: got worse over time
Bennett: Got better over time
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