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re: Does NOT look like the are rewarding teams for playing tough OOC games.

Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:08 am to
Posted by hookem33
Belton, Tx
Member since Jun 2022
2167 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:08 am to
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Booger McFarland said Texas A&M had the most impressive road win of any team in the country because they beat Notre Dame in South Bend.

Two loss Notre Dame.

Guess beating #5 ranked Georgia in Athens doesn't mean much these days.


It's Booger McFarland. He probably needs help tying his shoes in the morning.
Posted by NWLA_Bama
Member since Aug 2024
1194 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:08 am to
I "love" how THEY'RE NOT paying in mind to the new "enhanced metrics" that they said they would. According to the ESPN broadcast last night, Texas A&M should have been #1. Nothing has changed, these coaches on the committee don't give two craps about metrics or statistics. They go by "eye test" and if the team is beating the crap out of teams (regardless of how cupcake they are) they're ranking them higher than teams who actually pass the metric and statistical tests. Same old system.

The SEC has ZERO reason to schedule any difficult OOC games moving forward.
Posted by BuckeyeGoon
Member since Jan 2025
835 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:09 am to
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Texas had vastly more first downs (16-11) and vastly more yards (336-203).

Texas was down most of the game and had to play catch up while Ohio State was playing conservative sitting on the lead to not make a big mistake. Its actually pretty common for losing teams to end up with more overall yards because they are in desperation mode earlier in the game.

Speaking of first games of the year though how did yours go? You would think Bama fans of all people would acknowledge that teams can get better and improve throughout the year and by November are completely different teams than took the field game 1. I guarantee thats the argument you'll be making when its time to seed for the playoffs, and of course you'll be holding everyone else to their week 1 results.
Posted by Dirty 6th
Member since Sep 2023
394 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:10 am to
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14-7 is convincingly now?


My thoughts exactly. The game was determined inside the 5 yard line. Both teams had 4th and goal from the 1. OSU scored; Texas didn’t. 14-7. And Texas had the ball at the end of the game with a chance to tie. Texas out gained OSU ~330 to ~200. Ohio State deserved to win but it was certainly competitive.
Posted by FootballFrenzy
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Member since Oct 2023
7621 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:34 am to
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The SEC has ZERO reason to schedule any difficult OOC games moving forward.

Lost any respect I had for the process when I heard that 13-0 FSU, who had a dominant win over LSU (who ended the season #12), was out of the playoffs. There is no reward for playing tough OOC opponents, so why bother?
Posted by NWLA_Bama
Member since Aug 2024
1194 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:37 am to
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Lost any respect I had for the process when I heard that 13-0 FSU, who had a dominant win over LSU (who ended the season #12), was out of the playoffs. There is no reward for playing tough OOC opponents, so why bother?


No doubt, even though it benefitted Alabama and we were one over time play away from making it to the NC game. I felt awful for FSU. They had a dominant season but how the ACC was viewed by the committee and then their QB (who was the reason that offense was so good) going down with the season ending injury, just was too much for the committee to overlook. I'm not saying I agree with them, just saying I can see where they came to their conclusion.
Posted by FootballFrenzy
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:39 am to
I have no delusions about peak 2023 FSU being better than Bama at the end of the conference championships (they weren’t at all), but if you’re not going to reward teams for what they’ve done, not what you think they will do, then take your opinion and become a pollster.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
16093 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:58 am to
I’m not knocking Ohio State, I’m pointing out to the Texas guy that he apparently didn’t watch the game because it was in no way domination

Also, if Ohio State is willing to sit on a seven point lead for three quarters good for them, but it’s probably going to end badly at some point. Most people don’t consider 7-0 going into the fourth in a game where you’ve been out gained all day long to be very comfortable at all.

But again, this isn’t about Ohio State. It’s about a Texas fan that totally misrepresented what happened that first game.

As far as Alabama goes, they got the crap beat out of them in the first game and that’s what we’re talking about - the first game. Not where any team stands today.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
16093 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:01 am to
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Lost any respect I had for the process when I heard that 13-0 FSU, who had a dominant win over LSU (who ended the season #12), was out of the playoffs. There is no reward for playing tough OOC opponents, so why bother?


The job of the selection committee according to their own rules is to pick the 12 best teams in the nation at the time they make the choices. It isn’t supposed to be an award based on the season.

Based on their performance without him, do you seriously think FSU was one of the 12 best teams in the nation after their quarterback got hurt?

If you’re honest, you know the answer. Without him, they weren’t one of the 12 best teams in the SEC, much less in the nation.
Posted by slappy1
Member since Feb 2019
53 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:12 am to
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Two loss Notre Dame.

Guess beating #5 ranked Georgia in Athens doesn't mean much these days.


After losing to 4 loss Florida State
Posted by travelgamer
Member since Aug 2024
2295 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:15 am to
This used to matter when there were four teams and before, not cupcakes for all I say. IU hasn't beat a team with a pulse in two years and won (Oregon isn't that good this year) and the B12 scheduled it that way, don't know who they have compromising pics of.
Posted by JEC119
Alabama
Member since Apr 2024
2077 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:27 am to
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South Carolina is so tough…yawn


That’s weird coming from a Clemson fan.
Posted by FootballFrenzy
Chief of the Grammar Police
Member since Oct 2023
7621 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:39 am to
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The job of the selection committee according to their own rules is to pick the 12 best teams in the nation at the time they make the choices. It isn’t supposed to be an award based on the season. Based on their performance without him, do you seriously think FSU was one of the 12 best teams in the nation after their quarterback got hurt? If you’re honest, you know the answer. Without him, they weren’t one of the 12 best teams in the SEC, much less in the nation.

I literally said in this thread that I didn’t think FSU, even when they were playing their best ball in 2023, could beat the Bama team as it was at the end of the regular season.

My point is this: what is the point of scheduling hard OOC games, where your players are more likely to be injured, if there’s no reward? High risk/ no reward versus low risk/no reward. It’s an easy choice. If the CFP committee wants to disincentivize good non-conference matchups, they’re doing a great job of it.
Posted by ManBearSharkReb
Member since Dec 2018
4960 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:40 am to
Texas sucks though. Should be 4-4 with losses to Kentucky and State. A 14-7 win over Texas as a signature win is pathetic.
Posted by n64ra
Member since Jul 2024
1993 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:26 am to
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Does NOT look like the are rewarding teams for playing tough OOC games


You are correct. A&M wouldn't move up if they swapped out ND for anyone. Texas would move up if they played a cupcake instead of Ohio State because they'd likely be 8-1 in that case.
Posted by PuertoRicanBlaze
Book Board Admin
Member since Apr 2024
6563 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:54 am to
They had no issues rewarding SOS in 2014 when 1-loss OSU got in over 1-loss TCU.

Weird.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
35407 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:58 am to
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Booger McFarland said Texas A&M had the most impressive road win of any team in the country because they beat Notre Dame in South Bend.

Two loss Notre Dame.

Guess beating #5 ranked Georgia in Athens doesn't mean much these days.


I don't know why you guys listen to these people. You can get better and worse opinions here.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
35407 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 12:00 pm to
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They had no issues rewarding SOS in 2014 when 1-loss OSU got in over 1-loss TCU.

Weird.


If teams have even records, they use SoS. The problem is when teams don't have even records, they are completely incapable of doing anything other than ranking them by record unless they just have a really terrible SoS and even then they'll still be ranked higher than they should be.

And of course, there is the whole AQ status bullshite.
Posted by ColoradoElkHerd
USA
Member since May 2014
4103 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 12:05 pm to
Stankey needs to step in and stir some shite. OSU BEST win is longhorns.

If Texas A&M hadn't traveled to ND and beat them, and instead scheduled a cupcake we would be on the bubble for CFP.
Posted by AggnHou
District of Columbia
Member since Oct 2013
595 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 12:07 pm to
Take care of biz and it will work itself out. I do see the OP's point but the committee has plenty of time to fix it and get it right in their final rankings. Some of this is probably just to spark conversation.
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