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re: Does Basketball make money?

Posted on 1/15/23 at 12:12 pm to
Posted by ScoggDog
SE Indiana
Member since Aug 2020
3623 posts
Posted on 1/15/23 at 12:12 pm to
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Does Basketball make money?


This is the kind of question that gets me in the frame of mind of "are you just trolling" ? Because its an obvious question with an obvious answer - to anyone that's followed sports for any period of time.

Yet - my boy, 18 years old and getting ready to go off to the military - asks as dumb and dumber questions all the time.

There are ... if you read anything regarding how scholarships work, Title IX works, and all the rest - two and only two revenue generating sports in college. [b]FOOTBALL[/i] - in all caps because football is the straw that stirs the drink for every Power V and most Division I athletic programs. And Men's Basketball.

There are exceptions to the above. Some elite Women's Basketball. Some Baseball. And that's it. Everything else is done at a loss. Which explains why shite like Women's Crew (rowing) is so popular. It lets you put a bunch of chics in a boat, with one coach and maybe a van and trailer to pull their gear around ... and you get to comply with Title IX for about two dozen others that actually generate money.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18379 posts
Posted on 1/15/23 at 12:21 pm to
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It's the "biggest city" in terms of people actually living within the city limits. The Birmingham metro area is still the largest actual city in the state by a good margin.


Huntsville Metro: 491k
Birmingham Metro: 1.1 million

And there’s a lot of room for the population to move back into Birmingham city proper if the city leadership would stop driving it into the porta potty.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54662 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 9:56 am to
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Does Basketball make money?


Yes, many basketball schools make bank. In the early days of modern media it was MCBB that brought in the most revenue. Unlike CFB after the Supreme Court decision, almost all of that revenue goes to the NCAA, not the basketball schools.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79069 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 10:01 am to
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pretty sure year in and year out at Bama FB and BB make money


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How much Nate Oats' basketball squad made Alabama The men's basketball team had $19.05 million attributed to it in operating revenue. With $10.9 million in operating expenses, the Crimson Tide brought in $8.15 million in net profit.


You would be correct sir
Posted by Razorhead
Member since Nov 2022
397 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 10:20 am to
Some make money, the collective TV contract probably makes everyone in the conference whole.

I would say there is not a single women’s sport that comes close to breaking even.
Posted by AbSnopes
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2020
921 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 10:23 am to
In 2022, rounded, Bama football brought in $131 million with $79 million expenses for $52 million net profit. Men's basketball brought in $19 million with $11 million in expenses for $8 million profit. Those two tend to be the only sports making profit, though I would suspect that softball and gymnastics do quite well with the sellout crowds they get.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54662 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 12:25 pm to
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Some make money


A lot more make money but play accounting tricks the film industry would envy

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I would say there is not a single women’s sport that comes close to breaking even.


WBB

Again, you cook the books to make it appear you make less so you can beg donors for more.
Posted by BFANLC
The Beach
Member since Oct 2007
18119 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 2:33 pm to
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Birmingham Tide


Birmingham Lead Collectors!

Motto is "If we don't have your caliber of ammo in our collection we will shortly!"
Posted by hiremikeleach
Member since Dec 2019
4612 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 2:34 pm to
Ole miss has over seven million dollars in revenue in baseball… they only had 4 million in revenue in basketball… it’s pathetic
Posted by Radio Zero
I grew up on FIFTH AVENUE.
Member since Nov 2022
1168 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 2:37 pm to
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If you consider the gain in students due to their sports program they generate a lot of more revenue. Alabama has doubled in size during Saban's time there. It also more than doubled when the Bear was there. I can guarantee you it wouldn't have if it were not winning like that. This advertising is having the exact desired affect.

then explain TAMU…. their football and yet enrollent at c station is prob over 125,000 now… lol boom
Posted by Radio Zero
I grew up on FIFTH AVENUE.
Member since Nov 2022
1168 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 2:37 pm to
diploma mill lol
Posted by Billy Blanks
Member since Dec 2021
3801 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 2:42 pm to
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they only had 4 million in revenue in basketball… it’s pathetic




Hard job to win at, espeically with Kermit.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41300 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 4:16 pm to
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11. Florida State



This is pretty hard to believe as broke as their athletic department constantly is.
Posted by T
Member since Jan 2004
9889 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 4:20 pm to
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Under wade basketball made 1-2mil a year. Every else we had since 2000 it loses momey


I know Will Wade fanboys think he is the greatest thing ti ever happen, but basketball at LSU has never lost money. TV contracts cause that to never happen.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54662 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 4:22 pm to
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Which explains why shite like Women's Crew (rowing) is so popular. It lets you put a bunch of chics in a boat, with one coach and maybe a van and trailer to pull their gear around ... and you get to comply with Title IX for about two dozen others that actually generate money.


Which is why (outside the Ivy League) you should doubt the sincerity of a school with a women's rowing team. A possible exception may be rivals

Alabama has a rowing team
Tennessee has a rowing team

They are the only 2 SEC schools with a team.

I really believe if Georgia got a rowing team Auburn would have one within a week. Same with tLandmass.
Posted by Oklahomey
Bucksnort, TN
Member since Mar 2013
5005 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 4:46 pm to
I think Oklahoma makes money but it’s hard to tell with the constant s**tshow that is displayed every game.
Posted by Chuck E Cheese
Rmft Rjyh City, Alabamastan
Member since Jan 2023
1384 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 7:50 pm to
At Bama, this year, bro, we making a LOT of money $$
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
21282 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 8:22 pm to
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Birmingham Tide


No
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
38378 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 9:15 pm to
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All these revenue pieces but I’m interested in actual profits per program. That has to be available to right? At least for the public schools…


It may just be a section of the athletic dept P&L, but it’s in the P&L.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 2/9/23 at 6:38 am to
The rule of thumb has been that football supports the rest of the sports, but basketball typically breaks even and in some cases might turn a small profit. After football and basketball, the other sports typically lose money.
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