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re: Do you think your program will win tCFP within the next 20 years?

Posted on 5/7/18 at 11:47 pm to
Posted by Bradentu2
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since May 2018
86 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 11:47 pm to
We will be back boys
Posted by GatorsGators
Member since Oct 2012
13454 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 11:50 pm to
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Like Tebow to Florida?

'06 was a thing my dude

(and, yes, I know Tebow was on the team, but Chris Leak was the starting QB)
Posted by AUsteriskPride
Albuquerque, NM
Member since Feb 2011
18385 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 11:50 pm to
Yes
Posted by AUsteriskPride
Albuquerque, NM
Member since Feb 2011
18385 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 11:52 pm to
quote:

Pretty confident we will win one in the next 20 months


Hold on to the hope.
Posted by viceman
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2016
30688 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 12:06 am to
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How many generational players has Florida had compared to Auburn?

Cam > Tebow

Bo > Emmitt

Pat Sullivan > Spurrier



Cam is a better athlete, and certainly a better passer. But Tebow is all heart and I know he(Tebow) would dive for a ball in a Superbowl. That being said you are correct Cam > Tebow as a qb, as a human being, Tebow no contest, but I digress.
Bo is the best athlete I ever witnessed. In his prime, he was untouchable. Emmit Smith is the nfl's all time leading rusher and not Bo. Therefore, Emmit's carrer > Bo's. In a single game I would take Bo, but Emmit was by far a better investment. Pat Sullivan and Steve Spurrier is hard for me. I am not old enough to have witnessed them play(especially Pat), so I have to atke your word that he was a better qb than Steve. However, I do know Steve's overall career and as a coach trumps anything Pat ever did. Spurrier > Pat Sullivan.(I have always has a disdain for Spurrier, and I hate to concede that). As a human being, Pat no contest. Of the three you chose, I would say Florida > Auburn on the football field.
This post was edited on 5/8/18 at 12:10 am
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 12:15 am to
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Emmit Smith is the nfl's all time leading rusher and not Bo. Therefore, Emmit's carrer > Bo's


I knew somebody would point this out, but this is about their college career and what they can do for Auburn/Florida. Bo won the Heisman, Emmitt didn't. Bo is one of the greatest college RBs of all time. Emmitt might be on the fringe of that conversation, but Bo is always one of the first three mentioned along with Herschel and Barry.

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Pat Sullivan and Steve Spurrier is hard for me. I am not old enough to have witnessed them play(especially Pat), so I have to atke your word that he was a better qb than Steve.


Pat Sullivan was the Cam Newton of his time. His numbers were gaudy for his time. He set NCAA records for most yards per play in a career with 8.57 and career touchdowns with 71 total (53 passing and 18 rushing)
His numbers blew out Spurrier both passing and rushing.
This post was edited on 5/8/18 at 12:19 am
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15523 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 6:17 am to
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Hold on to the hope.
Well We have won 2 of the last 3.

Not that much of a stretch.
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 6:52 am to
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I think we could probably win tWest and possibly tSEC (in the future).


If you accomplish that then you'll be in the CFP and would have a team that could win it.
Posted by MeatCleaverWeaver
Member since Oct 2013
22175 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 6:53 am to
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Honestly, 20 years is too long of a time period. So much can change during that time. Who would have predicted the emergence of Miami in 1963? Who in 1976 was saying Florida would eventually be a national powerhouse? Who could have predicted LSU in 1983? Definitely not me.



Good point, and you could use 1960s & 70s FSU to make the point, also. They were on the brink of pulling the plug on the football program pre-Bowden.
Posted by AceDilcock
Mt.Pleasant
Member since Nov 2017
74 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 6:56 am to
2 or 3

Boom has us rolling, and the thought of the Taters and their tainted titles due to pick plays will belong forgotten.
Posted by ksrph
Alabaster, AL
Member since Jan 2010
1168 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 7:27 am to
The South Carolina and Mississippi State delusion...
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17819 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 8:36 am to
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How do you feel about the future of your program?


I don't think MSU will win it, no. We don't have the dedication or the resources that it takes.

I'm OK with this. I honestly don't think I could handle going out like UGa did last year. I would sell everything and move to some SE Asia shanty-town where they've never heard of CFB.
Posted by SECdragonmaster
Order of the Dragons
Member since Dec 2013
16243 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 8:50 am to
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Other teams

Definite
Georgia
LSU
Florida

Possible
Auburn
Texas A&M
South Carolina



You can't type that with a straight face unless you know nothing about football. Auburn has already demonstrated their ability to win the west and play for the Championship twice (winning one) in the last 7 seasons. We still have the same coach we had when we got there with N. Marshall at QB.

With the right pieces, Auburn will win one in the next 20 years.

So will LSU (not with Coach O) because they are a great program.
SO will UF (not with the hump) because they are an elite school.

And unfortunately, so will georgia (with smart). I think I will vomit now.

UT is the only now that I think is possibly down for the count.
Posted by MSUcoast
Gulfport, MS
Member since Oct 2014
637 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 11:25 am to
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Mississippi State will win it this year, but it will take a year or 2 to rebuild after that so i expect 2 or 3 within the next 5 years


Honestly sick of your retarded shite. At first, I thought you were joking with this crap, but you post it every.damn.time. Just go away and quit representing my school.
This post was edited on 5/8/18 at 11:26 am
Posted by Gordy
Fayetteville
Member since Dec 2015
1729 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 11:28 am to
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I will be realistic and say that I don't think Arkansas will. I think we could probably win tWest and possibly tSEC (in the future). I think beyond that, it would be very hard to navigate to become eventual National Champions. How do you feel about the future of your program?
I feel pretty good about the future and I believe we will make the CFP one year but ultimately lose a close game to the eventual National champion. Such is life as a Razorback.
Posted by tattoo
Fantasy Island
Member since Oct 2017
1806 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 12:54 pm to
As programs are currently constituted:

Bama: 70% chance - no need to say much. 70% may seem low but it is not as easy as Bama has made it seem. No one else has won more than 1 in the last 12 years. It's tougher than ever.

UGA: 50%. See above. UGA does not yet know all of the difficulties and pitfalls of being consistent. Then you have to win 3 post season games, almost all against top notch competition without the benefit of home-field advantage. Just because one is close one year, means nothing for the next. Recruiting usually only gets one so far. Bama is a serious road block for the foreseeable future.

UF: 10%. Great talent pool, very good history, good coach. But Bama, UGA, FSU, +.

AU: 10%. High highs, good coach, good history. Bama is a blessing and a curse. Getting past them is a hard, OTOH, hiding in their shadow and the confidence of beating them enables you.

IMO, as currently constituted, no one else has a legitimate chance to make it. To think LSU can overcome Coach O for a NC is too much. For A&M, JF is OK, but not what you think. No one else is viable in the least.


Long term, as a program:

Bama - Saban for 5-10 more years. After that, too much history. Bama has had 5 coaches with at least 7 years and an 80+ winning % from 1923-. 3 within the last 40 years. No other SEC program except UT has even one - Neyland, who last coached ~65 years ago and UF with Spurrier and Meyer (6 years). In the poll era (AP and/or UP/Coaches), 1936-, Bama has 12 NCs (1941 is invalid), the rest of the SEC combined 11: LSU & UF 3, UT & AU 2, UGA 1. Alabama can hardly handle post-Saban as badly as post-Bryant. It will more than likely be like Wade to Thomas.

UF: their recent history has shown that with the right coach they can win big. They still exist in the middle of a boatload of talent.

UGA: their history is good but not great, especially at the national level. Things can change and they too sit on a motherlode of talent. Kirby has been very fortunate with being with Saban and falling into the UGA recruiting lap. But even if he is not a great coach, which I question, they can still win a title. But it's not going to be like what they now think. UGA has been a kind of UTex lite. Good University, cool social scene and a good but underachieving football program; but the first 2 create an unfounded snobbery that robs their football program since football is played by men and men are not cool today. But maybe you've now made a commitment to become a Cro-Magnon.

LSU: ah LSU, the drunken beauty. Now she's fallen on the floor into her own vomit. But the next coach can clean her up in a moment. But you need someone who has some sense at that University. Do y'all have someone ? Let me hear ya, LSU. I wantcha back. Though we've had our foot on your neck for most of your history, you've made it fun and exciting.

AU: the curse of Bama. But you've handled it as well as anyone could. As noted earlier, it can be a bit of a blessing too. It may not be 53 years between titles, but it will probably be longer than you think. You schitzo you.

A&M: the optimism of money and Texas and talant. But money can't buy you top notch football success, even talent and certainly not being in Texas. The right coach can overcome a lot, but Jimbo will prove to be another disappointment, while maybe tantalizing you a time or two.

UT: exploding Nashville will provide more help than many realize, but you are unlikely to recapture your former success. It was primarily regional anyway. Essentially even with Bama regionally, but you usually gagged on the national stage. There Bama out performed you by miles. Nashville's success is also robbing you of some of your energy. Pruitt may do some good, but it will likely be teases. Hard to see you getting past all of your natural shortcomings, as well as, Bama, UF and UGA. You gotta tough row to hoe.
Posted by viceman
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2016
30688 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 4:06 pm to
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I knew somebody would point this out, but this is about their college career and what they can do for Auburn/Florida

Well ok, Tebow was more successful in college than Cam. He was actually allowed to stay at UF. So I give you Bo, but take away Cam.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 5/8/18 at 4:15 pm to
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Tebow was more successful in college than Cam.


Was he? Cam got a NC the only year he started, 1 for 1, He also had a second NC at another level in CFB, 2 for 2, was a on third national championship team as a player and was 25-1 as a starter and 37-2 as a player

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He was actually allowed to stay at UF.


I know those redfish hush puppy dinners were full of gossip about Cam and Auburn, but Cam wasnt kicked out of UF, Urban confirmed that as well.

Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12519 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 7:10 pm to
I think it’s definitely possible.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33052 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 7:12 pm to
Unrelated to the felony arrest, Cam was facing probable expulsion, so he left.
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