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Did Saban underachieve with two of the best QBs he’s ever had?

Posted on 1/7/20 at 3:00 pm
Posted by Tide and Seek
Member since Dec 2019
343 posts
Posted on 1/7/20 at 3:00 pm
It’s weird that we only won one and it took both of them to do it.
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 1/7/20 at 3:01 pm to
The decline of the defense?

Defense wins championships.
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 1/7/20 at 3:02 pm to
Most overrated coach ever. He discovered that the keys to success were actually just Dodge Charger keys. Those don't work as well anymore. Real men drive trucks
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 1/7/20 at 3:03 pm to
This and injuries
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 1/7/20 at 3:08 pm to
During the 4 years of the Jalen/Tua era

- 52-5 Overall (29-3 SEC)
- 2 SEC Titles
- 1 National Title
- 2 National Runners Up
- 4 Top 10 finishes

If that underachieving then sign me up

I really do wonder where some of you were from 1997-2007. I mean, I have an idea, but I just can't imagine feeling upset/slighted by a run like the one laid out above.
This post was edited on 1/7/20 at 3:10 pm
Posted by FourThreeForty
Member since May 2013
17290 posts
Posted on 1/7/20 at 3:21 pm to
4 years of AJ/Greg:
49-4
3 national championships
2 SEC championships
A Heisman winner




Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 1/7/20 at 3:22 pm to
quote:

FourThreeForty


Yes, also great. Are we melting about not winning 3 of 4 national titles now?

Posted by Crimsontide1713
Member since Dec 2019
2615 posts
Posted on 1/7/20 at 3:23 pm to
Just further proves that defense wins championships
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
24469 posts
Posted on 1/7/20 at 3:23 pm to
quote:

- 52-5 Overall (29-3 SEC)
- 2 SEC Titles
- 1 National Title
- 2 National Runners Up
- 4 Top 10 finishes



Underwhelming.
Posted by bulletprooftiger
Member since Aug 2006
2026 posts
Posted on 1/7/20 at 3:23 pm to
No. JaMarcus was just too young and inexperienced in 2004. Met expectations.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 1/7/20 at 3:24 pm to
quote:

Underwhelming


Terrible - what's even the point of caring about something like that
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14392 posts
Posted on 1/7/20 at 3:24 pm to
Say what you want about the guy, but he's one of if not the best CFB coach ever.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78328 posts
Posted on 1/7/20 at 3:25 pm to
So you are saying Saban squandered the best offensive talent ever assembled at Bama?
Posted by DTRooster
Belle River, La
Member since Dec 2013
7952 posts
Posted on 1/7/20 at 3:26 pm to
You shoulda had Les if you think Sabans been underachieving. Probably would have killed yourself
Posted by 9th life
birmingham
Member since Sep 2009
7310 posts
Posted on 1/7/20 at 3:27 pm to
It is worth discussion, in that the four years prior to the Jalen/Tua era (McCarron/Sims/Coker)

- 50-6 overall (28-4 SEC)
- 3 Sec titles
- 1 National Title
- 4 top ten finishes

Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64946 posts
Posted on 1/7/20 at 3:30 pm to
I actually think this might have been one of the best coaching jobs of his career. We lost two starters on the defensive side of the ball before a single game had been played. We then proceeded to lose two or three more starters on that side of the ball as the season progressed, forcing Saban to use four true freshmen in the front seven for almost the entirety of the season. There would be snaps on defense where more than half of the guys on the field were starting in high school just 12 months prior to that moment.

Then of course you had the injury to Tua Tagovailoa at the midway point of the season that was finally made season-ending three games later. We also lost our starting placekicker for the season as well as our second string RB who would have ended up being a major contributor. He went out for the year during the first or second fall scrimmage.

The fact that we ended up 11-2 is a testament to good coaching, even if it was frustrating more a good majority of the time.
Posted by Crimsontide1713
Member since Dec 2019
2615 posts
Posted on 1/7/20 at 3:34 pm to
In the years prior to Tua/Jalen we also had a much better defense
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78328 posts
Posted on 1/7/20 at 3:36 pm to
Your case would be much stronger if you had not lost both games against your only quality opponents. You had 4 tests in 12 months and you failed 3 of them ( being kind and giving you Michigan as quality cough cough). So you must understand the skepticism, right?

Posted by FourThreeForty
Member since May 2013
17290 posts
Posted on 1/7/20 at 3:40 pm to
It’s an interesting question with a fair amount of beef behind it. His 2009 squad up to that point was the only team in history to play #1 and #2 back to back. And the QB to do beat both was god awful.
Posted by uofarolltide
Member since Sep 2016
1830 posts
Posted on 1/7/20 at 4:14 pm to
Jalen was not a great QB. AJ and Coker were both better.

Did Saban underachieve with Tua?
Well considering Tua only played one full season, and finished in a landslide blowout to Clemson, it’s possible.

I think the offensive coordinator got owned in that game.

But whatever. You have to keep moving forward.

The real question is what he’ll be able to do with 3 years of Bryce Young.
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