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re: Did Bobby Dodd really refuse to play away games at Ole Miss and State because.....

Posted on 4/23/23 at 8:42 pm to
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
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Posted on 4/23/23 at 8:42 pm to
How can a SEC refuse to play another conference member at their home stadium?
Posted by Godawgs4
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Posted on 4/23/23 at 8:45 pm to
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“Didn’t they play a double header at one time in Jackson. MSU vs Alabama and ole miss vs somebody at night?”



Yes State and Ole Miss played games in Jackson from the 1950’s until around 1990.
And there were DH’s at times. Saw quite a few myself in the 1970’s and 1980’s. They were a lot of fun. Tailgating all day and all night was tremendous. Even saw a college/high school doubleheader in 1973.
State-Ole Miss in the afternoon and Meridian High and Jackson Murrah in the Capital Bowl that night.

They did so because the JAN stadium sat 46K and later 60K+ and the campus stadiums around 35K. Additionally, there were few hotels in Oxford/Starkvegas and accessibility was difficult during that era.

Today the amenities in both University towns are very nice. Access is very easy with four lane highways.
Stadiums are much nicer than JAN and campus’ of each university are beautiful and make for great game day settings.

Posted by Imber
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Posted on 4/23/23 at 8:46 pm to
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You can just not post on those threads you do not like.


That's true. I can choose not to post in 50% of the threads on the first page because he wants to spam the board. Good advice.
This post was edited on 4/23/23 at 8:47 pm
Posted by Godawgs4
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Posted on 4/23/23 at 8:47 pm to
Interesting question. Probably back then it was mostly gentlemen agreements. Today the conference has total control over conference scheduling so it is probably a moot point.
Posted by deltaland
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Posted on 4/23/23 at 8:49 pm to
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Probably. State was basically a 3rd world team at the time. Athletic dept selling off games to get cash for the university. Times were tough.


And boosters preferred Jackson because it was easier to get to the games

The drive to Starkville used to be awful when hwy 82 was a 2 lane.

Funny how much has changed in such a short time now that I think about it. Remember it was only 20 or so years ago hwy 49 here in the delta was 2 lane and went through the center of Inverness, isola, Belzoni, midnight, Louise. It took for-fricking ever to get to yazoo city from indianola.
Posted by solus
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Posted on 4/23/23 at 8:52 pm to
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This post was edited on 4/23/23 at 8:55 pm
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
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Posted on 4/23/23 at 9:03 pm to
I thought y'all always played your "bigger" home games in Jackson like how Bama did with Birmingham.
Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 4/23/23 at 9:05 pm to
A&M 23-35-3 vs LSU.

Of those 61 games, only 15 have been played in College Station, because LSU thought they were too good to play on the road against a tiny, all male, farmer’s college.
Posted by coachcrisp
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Posted on 4/23/23 at 9:31 pm to
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State fans refuse to recognize that there was not a place for a team to stay in Starkville after the game until the late 80s. Alabama be didn’t host many home games in Tuscaloosa for the SAME reason until the 90s.
Bull shite!
There were sufficient accommodations in Tuscaloosa, but the stadium was smaller than Legion Field in B'ham, and the powerful B'ham alumni (B of T) wouldn't approve of a stadium addition to Denny stadium that would allow the transition of the major games to Tuscaloosa.
Posted by AUFANATL
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/23/23 at 10:03 pm to

Auburn played 53 straight road games at Geogia Tech.

Fifty-three!!!

And they were our biggest rival back in those days. When Bobby Dodd and Georgia Tech finally came to Auburn in the 60s it was a huge deal. All of the old timers used to say forget the Iron Bowl, forget the DSOR, forget all the classic games, Auburn forcing Tech a great Tech team to come to our stadium and lose was THE moment of Auburn football.

And the reason Tech refused to play at Auburn was because the first time they ever came down to the plains at the turn of the century some clever Auburn students decided to grease the train rails with lard at the Auburn station and the train ended up sliding five miles past the little town of Auburn. The Tech players had to haul their luggage five miles back to Auburn on foot and were exhausted when the game started.
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 4/23/23 at 11:37 pm to
Ags signed a contract to play all those games in BR because LSU had a 68K stadium and Ags had a 46K stadium. LSU did not force the Ags to play out that contract. Ags freely agreed to it.

LSU usually played both State and OMiss in Jackson at Mississippi Memorial Stadium which held 46K then 65K while Starkville and Oxford had 30K stadia.
Posted by TheDude321
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 4/23/23 at 11:46 pm to
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Until this century State's stadium was literally a glorified high school stadium.


It's the second-oldest stadium in major college football.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 4/24/23 at 3:40 am to
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Yes State and Ole Miss played games in Jackson from the 1950’s until around 1990.
And there were DH’s at times. Saw quite a few myself in the 1970’s and 1980’s. They were a lot of fun. Tailgating all day and all night was tremendous. Even saw a college/high school doubleheader in 1973.
State-Ole Miss in the afternoon and Meridian High and Jackson Murrah in the Capital Bowl that night.

They did so because the JAN stadium sat 46K and later 60K+ and the campus stadiums around 35K. Additionally, there were few hotels in Oxford/Starkvegas and accessibility was difficult during that era.

Today the amenities in both University towns are very nice. Access is very easy with four lane highways.
Stadiums are much nicer than JAN and campus’ of each university are beautiful and make for great game day settings.


all of this is correct. Plus crappy roads getting into town up until the 90's or so.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 4/24/23 at 3:41 am to
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Until this century State's stadium was literally a glorified high school stadium.


It's the second-oldest stadium in major college football.



Cool. Still doesn't change the fact that it was a hunk of shite up until the late 90's-early 2000's. You quite literally used the walls of the men's bathrooms as a urinal up until like 20-25 years ago.

ETA: Calm down, State fans. Ours was as well.
This post was edited on 4/24/23 at 3:44 am
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 4/24/23 at 5:03 am to
Who was the turnip?
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 4/24/23 at 6:00 am to
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....he felt the State of Mississippi was beneath Georgia Tech?

And isn't that ironic because they are currently in a conference with Clemson and Louisville?



I don't know if it is true or not but I have heard it. Georgia Tech has always had a inflated self image...and there is no real reason for it...it is a fine school and has a serious reputation from an academic standpoint and has had some success athletically. They have more than enough credential wise to be happy about...but for some reason they want to pretend they are MIT or CalTech and so far above the region that is ain't close. It is really strange considering that through the 1980s the culture at Tech was solidly southern. This may well be the source of the self image issues at Tech...being what amounts to a trade school they were the institution of choice for serious students who were going to labor in industry while UGA, for example, was the home for the aristocracy in the south. I know there is a similar dynamic between VaTech and UVA and I suspect Alabama and Auburn have some of this also...and probaly UT Austen and ATM. The trade schools have always been viewed as glorified VoTechs...because that is what they are...while the Alabama's and Georgia's were viewed as "Universities" and were home to the children of the landed gentry while the engineering schools were home to the folks that kept the toilets flushing and the roads graded and the textile machines running.
Posted by LewEvansFan
Member since Mar 2023
4071 posts
Posted on 4/24/23 at 7:17 am to
No, it was clearly because it was a racist shithole.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 4/24/23 at 8:11 am to
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Of those 61 games, only 15 have been played in College Station, because LSU thought they were too good to play on the road against a tiny, all male, farmer’s college.


A&M must have agreed with LSU. Considering Texas A&M didn't join the SEC until 2012, A&M had no obligation to play LSU.
Posted by TouchdownTony
Central Alabama
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 4/24/23 at 8:35 am to
LSU either

"nor would LSU, who took issue that Dodd wouldn’t schedule them consistently out of preference for nearer rivals or more urban destinations like Nashville,"

Dodd was a class A prick who took his ball and went home after Bryant supplanted him in the SEC.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 4/24/23 at 8:45 am to
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LSU either


Georgia Tech played LSU in Baton Rouge six times from 1946 to 1963 while Dodd was Tech's head coach.
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