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Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:30 am to MrBiriwa
She was dating a recruit.
Wonder if she was more of a Darcy than a Babs...
...oh, wait. Babs hoed around, too.
Wonder if she was more of a Darcy than a Babs...
...oh, wait. Babs hoed around, too.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:31 am to skrayper
quote:this is a badge of honor for many women. they're called gold diggers and they love to take down the big fish. also, it's hilarious that people are criticizing lsu acting like this sort of thing doesn't happen on almost every campus in america
Can you imagine being outed as being the reason a star player is in jail?
quote:plenty of women crave that attention
A lot of fans and students would immediately think you're lying
quote:apparently she already wasn't safe. no reason to not notify the police. if this is true, the tennis coach had an obligation to notify the police. they were either negligent or thought her story had holes in it. trying to tie this to orgeron is just laughable
You wouldn't be safe on campus
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:33 am to SidewalkTiger
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Do none of you read?
Yeah. However you try and spin it, it is not a good look for Orgeron to be quoted like that.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:33 am to bfniii
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also, if guice was violent in those episodes, all the more reason for her to have gone to the police. the last thing you would do is just say nothing thus enabling a violent person to commit more violence
Maybe she felt it would get worse if she did report it.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:33 am to theGarnetWay
quote:and many do so what's your point?
It is a pretty well established fact that many rape victims won't go to the police at all, let alone immediately after it happened
quote:this is true of basically any issue you bring to the police that involves another person yet, people still go to the police. also, if her story had any credibility, guice would be out of her life
fear of straight up retribution from the rapist
it's like people read lsu in the article, lsu derangement syndrome kicks in and they lost all rationality
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:35 am to diddlydawg7
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‘Everybody’s girlfriend sleeps with other people,’
Even some wives.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:35 am to diddlydawg7
I don't give a shite about Guice, but at least give the guy his day in court.
These fricking stories are absolute shite, especially the 2nd one.
Now maybe he raped them and maybe he didn't, but this 2nd girl admits to taking him home from a bar. I don't know what planet you wonks are on, but where I'm from brown chickens and brown cows are about to show up.
There is such a thing as buyers remorse and women can also hold the frick out of a grudge if he never called back or even if the sex got too funky for their taste.
This whole me too movement sucks arse imo.
These fricking stories are absolute shite, especially the 2nd one.
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Both women told USA TODAY that Guice assaulted them in their own apartments after nights of heavy drinking. One woman said Guice showed up uninvited to a party she was hosting, then entered her bedroom while she was sleeping and raped her. The other woman, the tennis player, said Guice raped her when she allowed him into her home after meeting him for the first time at a bar.
“I was drunk and passed out on my bed,” the first woman said. “I never gave him consent. I never wanted to have sex with him. I don’t even remember except the flashbacks I had. I just wonder sometimes, does he even know that that was wrong?”
Now maybe he raped them and maybe he didn't, but this 2nd girl admits to taking him home from a bar. I don't know what planet you wonks are on, but where I'm from brown chickens and brown cows are about to show up.
There is such a thing as buyers remorse and women can also hold the frick out of a grudge if he never called back or even if the sex got too funky for their taste.
This whole me too movement sucks arse imo.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:35 am to IAmNERD
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Yeah. However you try and spin it, it is not a good look for Orgeron to be quoted like that.
Seems like a typical thing to say if you think two of your players are involved in a love triangle.
Also, notice the player said he had a "hunch" that Orgeron knew it wasn't consensual but apparently never outright told him it wasn't.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:35 am to BearBait09
quote:keep in mind these are the same rantards that cried about "team vote" when the player was CLEARED by law enforcement. it's straight up, rant standard, lsu derangement syndrome. yesterday there were 4 threads on the first page about lsu's roster "problems"
what exactly do people expect coaches to do with an allegation like this that is not pursued legally?
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:37 am to diddlydawg7
Obviously the behavior is abhorrent. However, the statement made by Coach O does not show me that he had an understanding of what happened (i.e. what is being alleged).
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:37 am to PlateJohnsonIII
quote:look at the me too movement around the country to see why women are coming out of the woodwork with allegations against people WAY more powerful than cfb players. like i said, if lsu is in the title, people lose their minds
Look at Florida State under Jimbo for an example of why going to police with allegations against a football player is difficult
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:38 am to IAmNERD
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Do none of you read?
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Yeah.
So you remember this line in the article...
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Other football players at the party told her that Guice had talked about having sex with her.
Guice is talking about it with players (so coaches are going to hear this) so it's out there and one of the boyfriends is on the team and purposely staying clear of Guice...
You think Guice is bragging "I raped her" or "yeah we had sex, she wanted me" to all the other players?
Use some common sense...
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:40 am to IAmNERD
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Yeah. However you try and spin it, it is not a good look for Orgeron to be quoted like that.
Well certainly when you spin it in a sense like he was making light of rape when he had no idea rape was being alleged, sure.
Also, still weird to me they put something in there about O and nothing about Miles, Alleva, etc...the people in charge during all this. Sure seems a bit off to take a quote from O when he alledgedly didnt even know anything other than a player slept with another player's girlfriend.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:41 am to LSURulzSEC
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Guice is talking about it with players (so coaches are going to hear this) so it's out there and one of the boyfriends is on the team and purposely staying clear of Guice...
You think Guice is bragging "I raped her" or "yeah we had sex, she wanted me" to all the other players?
The boyfriend comes off as a pussy.
He's steering clear of Guice, allegedly so he wont frick Guice up but then doesn't even correct O's statement a year later.
He just has a "hunch" that O knows and goes on without saying anything.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:41 am to Porter Osborne Jr
quote:exactly. keep in mind this is after the psu/msu sagas so coaches know they are legally obligated to report. if they didn't, it's safe to assume they felt her story wasn't airtight. there's no way a coach, including orgeron, is going to put their career on the line by not doing a thing as simple as reporting this kind of testimony to the authorities. also, miles kicked players off the team when it was warranted so it's dumb for people to act like this was team sweep
They are mandated reporters. They still have to report it to someone above them if they hear about it
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:41 am to SidewalkTiger
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Wow. Big stretch on that one.
Total joke. They want to attach O’s name to it to make it more sensational. As if O is condoning rape. He Wasnt the running backs coach. It’s absurd and clearly intentional to bring him up and paint him as some key figure in this
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:42 am to SidewalkTiger
In today's culture, for the head coach of the defending national champions, having that quote attributed to him, especially in the context of the article about an alleged rape by a former player, is not a good look.
Now, I know that it probably was just some comment in passing and O may not have been aware of any of the allegations. The only thing I'm saying is, once again, outside of Baton Rouge, folks are gonna read that quote and immediately apply it to the context of the article. It's what the media is best at: blowing things up by using a couple facts and filling in the rest.
I'm not saying Orgeron is guilty if anything, but it still won't look good to anyone who reads that. Except LSU fans.
Now, I know that it probably was just some comment in passing and O may not have been aware of any of the allegations. The only thing I'm saying is, once again, outside of Baton Rouge, folks are gonna read that quote and immediately apply it to the context of the article. It's what the media is best at: blowing things up by using a couple facts and filling in the rest.
I'm not saying Orgeron is guilty if anything, but it still won't look good to anyone who reads that. Except LSU fans.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:43 am to Frac the world
quote:based on what? by all accounts he's a likeable, stand up kind of guy. but somehow you keyboard jockeys know from outside the program that he's not.
Coach O is a tPOS
lsu derangement syndrome is BAD on the rant lately
you people don't even know how pathetic you sound. "LSU CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT" freaking sports skyscreamers
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:44 am to bfniii
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It is a pretty well established fact that many rape victims won't go to the police at all, let alone immediately after it happened
and many do so what's your point?
...my point is that many don't and these 2 chose not to and there is nothing out of the ordinary or suspicious about it.
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it's like people read lsu in the article, lsu derangement syndrome kicks in and they lost all rationality
I mean it doesn't help that he was accused not 2 weeks ago of choking out his current girlfriend here in Washington. The idea that it's not "rational" that Guice could have done this because he went to LSU or because the girls didn't go to the police is well...irrational.
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look at the me too movement around the country to see why women are coming out of the woodwork with allegations against people WAY more powerful than cfb players. like i said, if lsu is in the title, people lose their minds
Yeah... and many of those women didn't go to the cops either for the various reasons I mentioned in my first post. They only felt safe in doing it well after the fact and with the protection of having a bunch of women come out at the same time to do it.
This post was edited on 8/19/20 at 8:55 am
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