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Derrius Guice accused of rape by two former LSU students, O is mentioned
Posted on 8/19/20 at 6:39 am
Posted on 8/19/20 at 6:39 am
USAToday
ETA: The two coaches were tennis and diving coaches
That last part doesn’t sound good.
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Two former Louisiana State University students say recently released Washington Football Team running back Derrius Guice raped them just months apart in 2016, when Guice was a rising star freshman on the LSU football team.
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A USA TODAY investigation found that the women’s allegations were shared at the time with multiple people at the school — including at least two coaches, an athletics administrator and a nurse — yet the school does not appear to have investigated.
ETA: The two coaches were tennis and diving coaches
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The woman’s boyfriend at the time, an LSU football recruit, wasn’t at the party. But he said the woman told him afterward about both the alleged assault and her conversation with the nurse. His description matched that of the woman’s.
The former boyfriend redshirted his freshman year and said he steered clear of Guice because “I probably would have lost my (expletive) on him.” But he said LSU head football coach Ed Orgeron brought up the subject of his then-girlfriend and Guice about a year after the alleged assault, telling the athlete that he shouldn’t be bothered by it.
“(Orgeron) said, ‘Everybody’s girlfriend sleeps with other people,’” the former player told USA TODAY.
That last part doesn’t sound good.
This post was edited on 8/19/20 at 8:50 am
Posted on 8/19/20 at 6:40 am to Serraneaux
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Coach O?
I don’t know. Could be anyone.
That said, if assistant coaches knew about it, Coach O probably did as well.
This post was edited on 8/19/20 at 6:41 am
Posted on 8/19/20 at 6:41 am to Serraneaux
Would have been Miles no O.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 6:43 am to FreddieMac
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Would have been Miles no O.
Yeah but he was still on the team
Posted on 8/19/20 at 6:47 am to diddlydawg7
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I don’t know. Could be anyone.
You could read the article
It was the women’s tennis coach and the women’s diving coach
Posted on 8/19/20 at 6:48 am to diddlydawg7
No police report filed
Ho hum
Ho hum
Posted on 8/19/20 at 6:50 am to diddlydawg7
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Yeah but he was still on the team
So every single coach and player in the athletic department would have been complicit? C'mon man
Posted on 8/19/20 at 6:50 am to diddlydawg7
The story implicates Orgeron
Says he was made aware of the incident but blew it off as a "girlfriend just sleeping around
Says he was made aware of the incident but blew it off as a "girlfriend just sleeping around
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The former boyfriend redshirted his freshman year and said he steered clear of Guice because “I probably would have lost my (expletive) on him.” But he said LSU head football coach Ed Orgeron brought up the subject of his then-girlfriend and Guice about a year after the alleged assault, telling the athlete that he shouldn’t be bothered by it.
“(Orgeron) said, ‘Everybody’s girlfriend sleeps with other people,’” the former player told USA TODAY.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 6:51 am to Serraneaux
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Coach O?
Miles was HC at the time.
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The other woman said LSU emailed her after a friend reported the alleged assault, letting the woman know support services were available and asking if she wanted to file a formal complaint. She said she did not file one.
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Neither woman reported the incidents to law enforcement, which is common among sexual assault victims. Campus and local police have no records of them.
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USA TODAY reporters interviewed two people who said the women described to them what happened within days of the alleged assaults, another who was told within a few weeks and three more who said the women told them months later. None of them witnessed the incidents take place. Two of the people said they reported the information directly to LSU coaches.
I'm not saying the women are lying, just thats its hard to blame the coaching staff when all they had was secondhand information and neither incident was reported to the proper authorities.
What do you do? Kick him off the team on hearsay?
Posted on 8/19/20 at 6:51 am to MrBiriwa
Not really what it says but go for that leap
Posted on 8/19/20 at 6:54 am to MrBiriwa
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The story implicates Orgeron
Says he was made aware of the incident but blew it off as a "girlfriend just sleeping around
Wow. Big stretch on that one.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 6:55 am to MrBiriwa
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“(Orgeron) said, ‘Everybody’s girlfriend sleeps with other people,’” the former player told USA TODAY.
This doesn't look good for O.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 6:56 am to MrBiriwa
to paraphase another poster, i realize most of you wont read that really long USA Today article:
- one of the alleged victims in mid-2016 was dating an LSU recruit
- in 2016, when Coach O is the line coach, Guice sleeps with the recruits girlfriend
- a year later, Coach O, randomly walks up to the recruit and says “don’t be bothered, everyone’s girlfriend sleeps with people”
- the recruit says he has a hunch Coach O knew it wasn’t consensual
That part of the story looks so obvious they had to find a way to shoehorn O into the story
- one of the alleged victims in mid-2016 was dating an LSU recruit
- in 2016, when Coach O is the line coach, Guice sleeps with the recruits girlfriend
- a year later, Coach O, randomly walks up to the recruit and says “don’t be bothered, everyone’s girlfriend sleeps with people”
- the recruit says he has a hunch Coach O knew it wasn’t consensual
That part of the story looks so obvious they had to find a way to shoehorn O into the story
Posted on 8/19/20 at 6:58 am to diddlydawg7
The amount of special treatment and coddling the football players get is staggering
Posted on 8/19/20 at 7:02 am to Gary Busey
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This doesn't look good for O.
You obviously didnt read the article.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 7:03 am to Gary Busey
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This doesn't look good for O.
At a very high level glance without reading full article, yes it looks bad.
Read the article bud.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 7:04 am to MrBiriwa
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But he said LSU head football coach Ed Orgeron brought up the subject of his then-girlfriend and Guice about a year after the alleged assault, telling the athlete that he shouldn’t be bothered by it.
“(Orgeron) said, ‘Everybody’s girlfriend sleeps with other people,’” the former player told USA TODAY.
So Guice assaults someone. The girl tells the tennis coach about it, never goes to police and a year later O walks up to a redshirt player and says “don’t worry about it, everyone gets cheated on”
Hmmm
This post was edited on 8/19/20 at 7:07 am
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