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re: Deregulation of conference championship games expected to pass

Posted on 5/11/15 at 11:43 am to
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42542 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 11:43 am to
Bama didn't win their division. They didn't deserve a shot in Atl, either.
This post was edited on 5/11/15 at 11:45 am
Posted by nebraskafaninwi
Member since Mar 2013
2655 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 11:47 am to
Y3s, could have been a rematch in Atlanta instead with the winner taking on Oklahoma State.
Posted by GeauxToBed
Covington, LA
Member since Mar 2015
6113 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 11:48 am to
quote:

 If it ain't broke, don't fix it.


Amen
Posted by nebraskafaninwi
Member since Mar 2013
2655 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 11:51 am to
Playing a conference team once a decade is a broken system scheduling wise.
Posted by GeauxToBed
Covington, LA
Member since Mar 2015
6113 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 11:52 am to
Both Bama and LSU deserved to play for the championship that year. Bama did not deserve to play for the sec. The system got it right in 2011.
Posted by sugatowng
Look at my bling Bitches
Member since Nov 2006
25326 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 11:53 am to
I like it
Posted by GeauxToBed
Covington, LA
Member since Mar 2015
6113 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 11:54 am to
quote:

Playing a conference team once a decade is a broken system scheduling wise.


I'm fine with doing away with permanent cross-division rivals.

Keep the schedule at 8 games, play everyone every few years and don't fix what ain't broke.
Posted by ArmyHogs
Your mom's house
Member since Feb 2012
9233 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 11:57 am to
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This will help avoid boring games of a "divisional winner" that is a weaker team than the second place team because the second team had a harder schedule and thus missed out on wining the division because "the champ" had an easier schedule.


Welp, that's all she wrote for Missouri then.
Posted by ssgrice
Arizona
Member since Nov 2008
3053 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 11:57 am to
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Once the deregulation passes, conferences can decide on how to determine who plays in the conference title games.

This could be a Major problem.
The Conferences could decide whoever they want to play. It will still create controversy with teams 2-5 on who is the true #2.
Posted by RECConspiracy
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
2069 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 11:58 am to
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The biggest difference to me, and one that I haven't seen much talked about, is why wouldn't current conferences get rid of teams now, and go back to 10 teams. The B1G could technically get rid of 4 teams, go to a rotating 10 team schedule (9 conference games), and then pick a champion in whatever way deemed necessary.

This opens up an entire can of worms



Not happening. The TV money is too good with more teams. The less teams there are the less lucrative those contracts become.
This post was edited on 5/11/15 at 1:04 pm
Posted by nebraskafaninwi
Member since Mar 2013
2655 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 12:04 pm to
Yep...that is why it will go to 4 team pods. Top 2 teams play for the title and then playoff appearance, potentially.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
23091 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 12:08 pm to
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Not happening. The TV money is too good with more teams. The less thams there are the less lucrative those contracts become.



You are the second person to say that, and I absolutely agree money is important. However, if money was the only real consideration why don't the B1G/SEC expand tomorrow to each bring in another state or two each? They both have the $ and clout to do it successfully. There are obviously other considerations.

I will tell you this: the ONLY reason the B1G expanded to 12 teams, at the time, was for a title game so they could get a team into the conversation for national titles. It is also the reason why the Ohio State/Michigan game got moved back a week (the B1G season always used to end before thanksgiving and it was bad for their perception/chances to be in the spotlight)

If the B1G never had to get a twelfth member for a title game, they wouldn't have.

Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41806 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 12:09 pm to
Give Birmingham more reason to suck on Bama's trunk?

Nah, I'll pass
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 12:14 pm to
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why don't the B1G/SEC expand tomorrow to each bring in another state or two each?


Because there are no good options. The weakest conferences financially (the ACC and the Big 12) both have really strong GORs protecting them. If the B1G challenges these GORs it might invalidate the GORs the B1G also uses which would decrease media payouts due to uncertainty.

The only major conference without a GOR is the SEC, which is why maybe the B1G has been rumored to be sniffing around Mizzou recently. Problem is the SEC Network is going to make more for Mizzou long-term.

quote:

If the B1G never had to get a twelfth member for a title game, they wouldn't have.



Then why did they expand to 14? They didn't need to do that for a title game.

Its the same answer for why they won't drop back down to a lower number: money. The B1G targeted two programs with minimal legal encumbrances who added to the population base for 13 and 14. That is the new reality of college football.
Posted by Jenar Boy
Elsewhere
Member since Aug 2013
12517 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 12:18 pm to
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Better fix would be 9 league games and all OOC's should be against the Big 5 conferences. IMO

100% agree
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43782 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 12:25 pm to
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Yep...that is why it will go to 4 team pods. Top 2 teams play for the title and then playoff appearance, potentially.


So, what happens if the SEC has 4 pods, and 3 of them have undefeated teams? Or, if 1 pod has an undefeated team and two others have 1 loss teams which both lost to the undefeated pod "winner"?

If you're going to have 4 pods, you have a "playoff" with the 4 pod winners to determine the conference champ. Otherwise, it's pointless to have pods in the first place.
This post was edited on 5/11/15 at 12:26 pm
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22454 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 12:44 pm to
quote:

I wish they would just move Mizzou to the West so all you fricktards would stop bitching.


Not a put down, but they should be in the West anyway.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25043 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 12:47 pm to
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It's time to man up and go to a 9 game conference schedule with 1 permanent and 2 rotating cross-divisional opponents.


Will never happen. No one other than Bama supports injecting the inequity of home/away balance issues into the schedule. Plus, big programs such as LSU, Bama (it is likely their support is because they think costing the other programs a home game every two years creates a competitive advantage given their revenue advantage), Auburn, Florida, Georgia, and Tennessee aren't going to give up a home date on the schedule so they can play an extra conference road game.
This post was edited on 5/11/15 at 12:52 pm
Posted by Billder
Where you live
Member since Nov 2009
5223 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 1:07 pm to
quote:

Serraneaux


quote:

But, LSU would complain about a possible rematch.


You sure have a lot of mouth on you, being a fan of a team that hasn't been relevant in long over a decade
Posted by nebraskafaninwi
Member since Mar 2013
2655 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 1:18 pm to
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So, what happens if the SEC has 4 pods, and 3 of them have undefeated teams?



Pod A plays Pod B this year and Pod C plays Pod D. Thus, you can only have one undefeated team for the A vs B and c vs D.

Simply put, the pod system is a way to ensure that every single school gets to play every other school twice every four years -- once at home and once on the road.





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