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re: Demise of football Dynasties

Posted on 10/4/23 at 8:51 pm to
Posted by Aguga
Southeast
Member since Aug 2021
2014 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 8:51 pm to
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Georgia is no more a dynasty than was Florida from 2006-2009.


So what’s a dynasty? UGA played for another title in 2017 btw.
Posted by AP77
Member since Jun 2023
56 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 8:53 pm to
“ So you are saying that the boosters of the Vandy’s and MTSU’s of the world will outbid the boosters of the Alabama’s and Georgia’s of the world for players they want. ”

No, I am saying that, for the first time the supporters of say Vanderbilt can at least attempt to compete on a level playing field against the Georgia’s/Ala. of the world. For instance say one or two or more of the big Nashville record companies (who have deep pockets/influence) want to do an NIL deal with a superstar 5 star……

And Georgia supporters simply can’t match the offer.

Ergo….parity begins.
Posted by Gunga Din
Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2020
1443 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 9:01 pm to
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Programs like mine don’t stand a chance. In the 70s it was increasing scholarships. That was the first blow.


They actually started limiting scholarships in the 1970s in order to start implementing title 9. First limitation was 105 schollies in 1973. They whittled away for about 30 years until they got to the 85/25 rule.

That was the same year those NCAA took away the players "laundry money". I think it was all the way up to $15 bucks a month when the cancelled it.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
9967 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 10:12 pm to
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So what’s a dynasty? UGA played for another title in 2017 btw.


Alabama is a dynasty.

It's more than that, and more than what we did. It's Alabama 2009-2020 (6 titles). It's Miami 1983-1991 (4-6 titles)

They don't happen often and winning 2 and playing for consolation prizes isn't enough.
Posted by LetItBe
Columbia, MO
Member since Apr 2022
327 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 10:15 pm to
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quote:
If Vandy and Middle Tennessee St had a late bloomer/under the radar stud.. the elites would snatch them up.


Not unless they guarantee the player he will start immediately.

I think the point of the OP is no one is going to be able to stack talent anymore. People will walk if they don't play right away. We are seeing it already. You've got 5 stars transferring out of schools like OSU and Bama because they are 2nd or 3rd on depth chart.


Exactly. And, Vandy and MTSU aren't the best examples for how the parity is going to play out. A team like Missouri is, though. The Tigers build a lot of depth in the last two offseasons by bringing in rotational players from good P5 programs around the country: Clemson, Miami, Florida, Florida St., Baylor, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St., Oregon, Arizona St. There's no way that Mizzou would be as solid as they are right now without those additions.

And, yes, Mizzou has lost couple great players to teams higher in the food chain (Dom Lovett-Georgia, Mekhi Wingo-LSU), but what they've brought in has filled those holes pretty well.
Posted by Mats86
Member since Mar 2021
3629 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 11:36 pm to
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Georgia has not had a dynasty so no big deal

Some might say you are in the middle of one right now.
Posted by McMillan
Member since Jul 2018
5917 posts
Posted on 10/5/23 at 12:51 am to
FCS NDSU is already feeling it.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41686 posts
Posted on 10/5/23 at 1:02 am to
Parity means not as many elite teams.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
7113 posts
Posted on 10/5/23 at 7:26 am to
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Alabama, Georgia, Notre Dame, etc. get ready for (wait for it) PARITY.

Yes, assuming the ncaa continues (no assurance) the implementation of revised/revising transfer rules and NIL have totally changed the concept of football dynasties.

Parity rules and I envision in the near term games where Georgia loses to Vanderbilt and Alabama loses to Middle Tenn State.

Too much money involved and too many good players unwilling to be 3rd on a dynasty depth chart.

Don’t cry for me Argentina, make that Georgia!


Parity will last about 3 seasons and the cream will adjust and rise to the top like it always does.
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
9022 posts
Posted on 10/5/23 at 7:28 am to
When I see you finish top 5 in recruiting rankings, I'll start believing.
Posted by FireDanMullen
Member since Dec 2020
2732 posts
Posted on 10/5/23 at 8:38 am to
Notre Dame hasn’t won a championship in 35 years
Posted by Dawg4Life47
Beach
Member since Sep 2013
8440 posts
Posted on 10/5/23 at 9:05 am to
The GA dynasty is 5-0 baw not sure what you are talking about
Posted by TouchdownTony
Central Alabama
Member since Apr 2016
9689 posts
Posted on 10/5/23 at 9:08 am to
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Rebuilds are going to be a lot quicker too. You don't have to stack multiple recruiting classes to get back to being competitive. Just have to poach other teams' players to fill needed gaps.


This. What used to be 3-5 year rebuilds are done in one offseason with the portal. Whats crazy is you can bring in all the transfers you want without going over 85. At least have a cap on how many transfers you can bring in. FSU, LSU, Colorado basically created new teams with the portal.
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