re: David Shaw takes a shot at ACC and SEC teams for playing an eight game conference schedule

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He's saying that P-5 schools should be required to schedule 2 OOC games against P-5 opponents,


bullshite.

If Saban wanted that, his AD would have made it happen with his own scheduling.

Not only has it not happened in the last 10 years at Bama, it isn't on any future schedules either.

Saban is playing you like a flute. Say one thing and want/do another.

There is no way an AD is going to butt up against Saban on a scheduling concern.

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You're starting to come across as a simpleton.
Hell no!! Saban's not gonna set up a schedule like that if ALL the other P-5 schools don't...as you previously stated, he's nobody's fool! That's why the NCAA would need to get involved. He wants ALL P-5 schools to do this.

He needs to figure out a way to win his own conference before he starts worrying about everybody else's conference.

Here is where his point breaks down:

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Every team has a tough conference. Every school plays a tough conference schedule

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He's assuming, and his entire point rests on this assumption, that all conferences are equal, so nine conference games in any conference is automatically more difficult than eight conference games in any other conference. That's just not true. It's a rare year when all the P5 conferences are essentially equal in quality. There is almost always a big disparity among them, although it is true that each conference has ups and downs so it's not always the same ones that are better and worse. The whole distinction between conference and non-conference scheduling is irrelevant. Simply look at the opponents a team plays, regardless of conference affiliation, and evaluate how tough they are.

I also think he's giving undue weight to playing FCS teams, even though I don't like it when P5 teams play them, either. Who cares if you played an FCS team if you also played a lot of extremely tough teams? That's tougher than playing a lot of mediocre teams but no FCS team. Auburn played three of the four CFP teams a total of four times, plus two other games against ranked SEC teams. Does it really matter that they also played Mercer? USC played five games against ranked opponents, but none of them is currently ranked higher than #13. Is their schedule tougher because they didn't play an FCS team?

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Are ALL Georgia fans this stupid? What's the difference in a OOC road game and a conference road game?..

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Seriously? You really don't know? Everybody plays conference road games. They are talking about OOC road games which makes the schedule tougher.

Look, I have no problem with Alabama, or how they schedule, because after they go through the playoffs every year they play one of the toughest schedules in the country, and more often than not they win.
But to act like you don't know the difference in a conference road game an OOC road game is silly.

(And before you twist things, thye are talking about OOC at another teams stadiums, not a neutral site game.

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I also think he's giving undue weight to playing FCS teams, even though I don't like it when P5 teams play them, either. Who cares if you played an FCS team if you also played a lot of extremely tough teams? That's tougher than playing a lot of mediocre teams but no FCS team. Auburn played three of the four CFP teams a total of four times, plus two other games against ranked SEC teams. Does it really matter that they also played Mercer? USC played five games against ranked opponents, but none of them is currently ranked higher than #13. Is their schedule tougher because they didn't play an FCS team?

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I'm with you.

When you match a resume' from one team to the next, you start with the toughest games and work your way down from there.

Only a moron would start comparing a resume' by looking at the 12th toughest opponent.

If you can get 1 or 2 great opponents and 3 more solid opponents, then you are doing good in this current scheduling environment.

The goal is to improve the scheduling. Adding a blind 9th conference opponent isn't likely to get more quality on the average teams schedule (i.e. playing Vandy this season did no more to help Bama's schedule than playing Colorado State).
If you want to add an element of difficulty, travel at Colorado State. Your fan base can show us how well they travel and get to see a beautiful part of the country. Your team will get to see a challenge (being Colorado State's super bowl in their home stadium).
Bama will still most likely win. But it should be a closer game than home or away versus Vanda (9th conference game).

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Seriously? Do you understand what OOC means?

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Seriously? Do you understand that there's NO DIFFERENCE in an OOC road game and a conference road game?...we're talking about R-O-A-D games...understand?..DAMN!!

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Seriously? Do you understand that there's NO DIFFERENCE in an OOC road game and a conference road game?...we're talking about R-O-A-D games...understand?..DAMN!!

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Dude. He was talking about road OOC games and you brought up your game with Georgia. That was not a road OOC game. Crap, are you another poster that wants to twist a conversation to fit your narrative.

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Dude. He was talking about road OOC games and you brought up your game with Georgia. That was not a road OOC game. Crap, are you another poster that wants to twist a conversation to fit your narrative.

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Son, you need to go back to the beginning of this thread and follow it through.
OVERVIEW:
I stated that Saban wanted a 9 game conference schedule and 2 OOC games against P-5 teams..and that's where my end of this conversation got started. Your guy (meansonny) said there'd be less home games that way and I said that IMO most fans would rather see the quality of the schedule better even if they had to sacrifice a few home games..finishing the post by stating that Alabama fans travel very well.....and THAT'S how we've gotten to here. Now please try to keep up.

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I haven't noticed. Penn State and Duke were the only opportunities to see them in a OOC road stadium in the last decade.


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You've got a short memory. Don't you remember a couple of years ago when we came to see y'all?...I'd probably want to forget that too if I was a Georgia fan!



Here was your conversation. Read it again v-e-r-y slowly, and see where you messed up.

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The top paragraph is where this shite jumped the track! The conversation at that point was referring to the loss of road games, PERIOD!...not just OOC road games. You apparently came in during the middle of the conversation...not a wise thing to do.

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Your guy (meansonny) said there'd be less home games that way and I said that IMO most fans would rather see the quality of the schedule better even if they had to sacrifice a few home games

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You want to get into some sort of Internet pissing match.

My life isn't unfulfilled like yours is. So I wont.

But I will teach you that a 9th conference game doesn't provide your fans more quality home games.
It provides less quantity (losing a home game).
And the same quality (a rotation of East opponents. Some of which may be awful like florida this season).

You are choosing to make sacrifices for no gain. Maybe because some guy in the pac12 calls out your scheduling, you are a sensitive fan. And you are willing to give up something for no gain.

Keep in mind that a 9th conference game loses 7 games per year for SEC tv/radio programming purposes. It makes 7 games disappear from the TV program guide.

The SEC isn't that stupid to give up something for no return.