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re: David Shaw takes a shot at ACC and SEC teams for playing an eight game conference schedule

Posted on 12/26/17 at 8:19 am to
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 12/26/17 at 8:19 am to
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So are UGA,UF,SC and UK already at a disadvantage because they go home and home OOC P5 every year?

Why can't Bama do it if those schools do?

Bama is pretty much doing the same thing those schools are doing.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25594 posts
Posted on 12/26/17 at 8:20 am to
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You can act like you know why Alabama schedules the way it does, but at the end of the day you're just making shite up. Accept that and grow from it and realize that just because you want it to be the case doesn't necessarily make it the case. Eventually, if you keep working on this, you can become a better man.


Hey.
There is hitching and moaning on Internet message boards because people like to hear themselves bitch and moan.

And then there is discussion about the pros and cons of scheduling.

I am pretty confident in what I am posting on here. I am not trying to get into pissing contests. Just trying to share info.

You don't have to believe me. Bama isn't dumb. There is a method to the scheduling. But the Bama fans clamoring for a new 9th game would be better suited to look within than to ask the conference for a change.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 12/26/17 at 8:21 am to
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The iron bowl this year reminds everyone why Bama avoids road games out of conference.

Bama plays neutral site games because it brings in a ton of money, and we usually play better on the road than we do at home.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/26/17 at 8:24 am to
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Hey buddy, I'm a fan. I don't control the schedule.



Bama listens to their boosters. Bama has more control over your own OOC scheduling than you do anything in conference.
Bama will do what helps Bama the most. If the boosters want to drop Colorado State for a tougher opponent, then Bama will entertain more home and homes.

You would get what you want (at the cost of 1 fewer home game every other year)
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 12/26/17 at 8:24 am to
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Your fan base will have to accept one fewer home games to make it happen.

I'm ok with playing fewer home games if it means we play better competition.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25594 posts
Posted on 12/26/17 at 8:27 am to
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Bama plays neutral site games because it brings in a ton of money, and we usually play better on the road than we do at home.


Now you are lying to yourself.

Bama plays neutral site games because it brings a ton of money.
It helps recruiting.
It maintains a big named opponent that helps with rankings and offseason focus.
And it avoids road conditions like you faced in the iron bowl.

Bama would be everyone's superbowl and Bama can avoid that road environment with neutral site games.
Don't be dumb.
Saban is the master at controlling as much of the variables as he can.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 12/26/17 at 8:28 am to
I have no desire to see us play Fresno State, Colorado State, and Mercer. Would much rather add an extra SEC road game than play one of those schools at home.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/26/17 at 8:29 am to
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I'm ok with playing fewer home games if it means we play better competition.


You might as well play more home and home games with Colorado State.
Getting a 9th game will add more Missouri, Vandy, and Kentucky at home which is comparable to Colorado State most years (lesser bowl teams).

The 9th game isn't an improvement in competition because it is more of the "average competition". You blindly rotate every east team in there.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 12/26/17 at 8:30 am to
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Bama plays neutral site games because it brings a ton of money

Is that not what I said? I added the second part because of your part about losing to Auburn. It's just a fact that we usually play better on the road under Saban. Crowd is quiet when we're on defense, allowing us to make quicker calls.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 12/26/17 at 8:31 am to
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You might as well play more home and home games with Colorado State.
Getting a 9th game will add more Missouri, Vandy, and Kentucky at home which is comparable to Colorado State most years (lesser bowl teams).

I'd rather play Mizzou, Vandy, and Kentucky than Colorado State.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25594 posts
Posted on 12/26/17 at 8:32 am to
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I have no desire to see us play Fresno State, Colorado State, and Mercer. Would much rather add an extra SEC road game than play one of those schools at home


The 9th conference game doesn't eliminate those.

You still have 3 more OOC. Knowing Bama, 1 would be a neutral site home opener. 1 would be Fresno state. And 1 would be mercer.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 12/26/17 at 8:34 am to
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The 9th conference game doesn't eliminate those

Those were 3 of our 4 OOC games this year. The extra conference game would have absolutely eliminated one of those.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95129 posts
Posted on 12/26/17 at 8:55 am to
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I wish our pansy arse ADs around the conference, other than Bama's (the only one to want 9 games) would vote for 9 and quit being scared.
I am all for going to 9 games, but only if permanent rivals are disbanded....


Lets see who the pansy is now......
Posted by ThaKaptin
The Sultan of Swag
Member since Nov 2010
21741 posts
Posted on 12/26/17 at 8:58 am to
No. frick that. I like that everyone plays a cupcake before their big rival games. Gives both teams a chance to rest up a bit and get close to full strength for the battle for the bragging rights. Everyone does it except their conference. It's the preferred model for the teams usually because the more exhausted teams are down the stretch the more likely players are to get injured because of sloppy mechanics and fundamentals due to fatigue.

No. You change to fit the rest of us. Not the other way around. fricking west coast primadonnas. Why do liberals think they are the center of the universe and that everyone should conform to them? Even though being forced to conform is inhumane or some shite when they have to do it. I'll never understand that shite.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 12/26/17 at 8:59 am to
What?
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30599 posts
Posted on 12/26/17 at 9:24 am to
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quote:
I have no desire to see us play Fresno State, Colorado State, and Mercer. Would much rather add an extra SEC road game than play one of those schools at home


The 9th conference game doesn't eliminate those.

You still have 3 more OOC. Knowing Bama, 1 would be a neutral site home opener. 1 would be Fresno state. And 1 would be mercer.


You are arguing 2 different (although related) things. Saban is addressing more quality in the total season schedule regardless of the number of home games that ensue. He's saying that P-5 schools should be required to schedule 2 OOC games against P-5 opponents, while playing a 9-game conference schedule. That's a guaranteed 11 game schedule against big time football teams. You can downplay the Vandys and Missouris if you want to, but they accomplish the goals that I previously stated in other posts, AND you're wrong if you say that ANY conference game doesn't hold more interest for the average fan than the Mercers, Samfords, or App States......besides, Alabama fans travel really well, if you haven't noticed.
Posted by 3morereps
The Gym
Member since Jun 2015
6735 posts
Posted on 12/26/17 at 9:38 am to
David Shaw lost to San Diego State. SEC needs them on the schedule
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25594 posts
Posted on 12/26/17 at 9:56 am to
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besides, Alabama fans travel really well, if you haven't noticed


I haven't noticed. Penn State and Duke were the only opportunities to see them in a OOC road stadium in the last decade.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25594 posts
Posted on 12/26/17 at 9:58 am to
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He's saying that P-5 schools should be required to schedule 2 OOC games against P-5 opponents,


bullshite.

If Saban wanted that, his AD would have made it happen with his own scheduling.

Not only has it not happened in the last 10 years at Bama, it isn't on any future schedules either.

Saban is playing you like a flute. Say one thing and want/do another.

There is no way an AD is going to butt up against Saban on a scheduling concern.
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
9418 posts
Posted on 12/26/17 at 10:08 am to
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Alabama fans travel really well, if you haven't noticed. 


Where are they traveling to? I haven't actually noticed because they never play true road games in their OOC schedule.
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