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Posted on 4/30/16 at 8:43 pm to RTRLSD
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kind of hard to say someone is top 5 because of a bunch of stats. The game has changed a lot in the last decade or so.
Except that he actually used the words "statistically" top 5. Which would require a bunch of stats.
Posted on 4/30/16 at 9:49 pm to RTRLSD
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It's kind of hard to say someone is top 5 because of a bunch of stats. The game has changed a lot in the last decade or so.
He spoke on him being statistically in the top 5 and that's what he is. He also brought Miss St to the national limelight, something it rarely sees. If he had the talent of an Alabama or LSU around him, he could have won championships.
Posted on 4/30/16 at 9:59 pm to Mr. Blutarski
Dak is a winner
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Posted on 4/30/16 at 10:02 pm to TeLeFaWx
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If you're not grading as a first round talent as a QB, you have significant limitations.
Umm... aside from the two obvious superstars already mentioned, you know Romo was undrafted, right?
Posted on 4/30/16 at 10:58 pm to Mr. Blutarski
I'm glad the Cowboys ended up with Dak instead of Conner Cook. Dak has a lot of potential and I hope he develops into a starter.
Posted on 4/30/16 at 11:01 pm to Mr. Blutarski
Alabama sacked him 9 times. He lacks the escapability of Watson but I think he can be a quality back up.
Posted on 5/1/16 at 2:28 am to TeLeFaWx
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As a Cowboys fan, this feels like a wasted pick. Wish we went defense.
If this is the gripe you have with the Dallas Cowboy draft choices, then you may very well be the most ignorant individual alive.
Posted on 5/1/16 at 8:28 am to finestfirst79
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Umm... aside from the two obvious superstars already mentioned, you know Romo was undrafted, right?
Agreed. And Romo is one of the few exceptions. And if this was 2003, would Carson Wentz have gotten as much attention? A lot has changed in the last ten years. Small school QB's weren't taken seriously, and Romo changed that. Romo won the Walter Payton Award out of Eastern Illinois. The first QB out of Eastern Illinois to do that, but not the last. Jimmy Garappolo, a second round pick, was the other.
But that doesn't change my original point. 95% of QBs drafted past the first two rounds end up doing nothing, and there is a reason for that.
Posted on 5/1/16 at 8:31 am to DynastyDawg
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If this is the gripe you have with the Dallas Cowboy draft choices, then you may very well be the most ignorant individual alive.
We wasted a 4th Round pick on former Aggie great, Stephen McGee, to fill the role of "backup QB to Romo" with the same results I am predicting here. I didn't like the McGee pick then and I don't like the Prescott pick now.
That says nothing about my feelings about other wasted draft picks. It's merely and indictment on that ONE pick. So your implication is just stupid.
Posted on 5/1/16 at 8:42 am to TeLeFaWx
McNair was drafted 3rd overall in 1995 out of Alcorn St. This isn't a new development.
Posted on 5/1/16 at 8:47 am to RoscoeHarper
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McNair was drafted 3rd overall in 1995 out of Alcorn St. This isn't a new development.
McNair was a blue chip recruit our of high school and an MLB Draft pick. So he always had people looking at him... O and he finished THIRD in the Heisman race.
Posted on 5/1/16 at 8:52 am to TeLeFaWx
Blue chip recruits don't go to Alcorn St. He was a blue chip recruit as a DB not a QB.
Posted on 5/1/16 at 9:06 am to msudawg1200
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Blue chip recruits don't go to Alcorn St. He was a blue chip recruit as a DB not a QB.
Because he was talented enough but a lot of the major programs in the south at the time didn't want a black QB. He finished third in the Heisman voting, so he didn't suffer from lack of awareness.
And what does any of this have to do with Dak Prescott being a wasted pick?
Posted on 5/1/16 at 9:12 am to TeLeFaWx
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4th round QBs rarely do anything noteworthy.
Drew Bree's (3rd Rd) says hello
Posted on 5/1/16 at 9:37 am to TeLeFaWx
I agree it has nothing to do with Dak. I was just responding to your response. I will disagree with your black QB take. This was 1991 not 1971. Most all SEC teams had a black QB at some point by then. In fact every SEC team, even Ole Miss, at that point had a black QB start a game. They didn't recruit McNair as a QB because he played at a small 1A Mississippi school and they didn't think he could play QB. It had zero to do with color.
Posted on 5/1/16 at 9:51 am to msudawg1200
I'm not sure if his talents convey well to the NFL, but I wish him well and think he may just surprise a few folks. Give him a few years...
Posted on 5/1/16 at 10:03 am to sandjunky
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Drew Bree's (3rd Rd) says hello
Drew Brees was the 32nd overall pick. Which was the first pick of the second round.
Do I really need to list every 4th round QB that ended up sucking, before my "90% of those QBs end up doing nothing" without someone listing the 10% thinking they are disproving what I'm saying? I want Dak Prescott to be successful. That doesn't mean I don't think it's a wasted pick.
- Bryce Petty
- Brett Hundley
- Trevor Siemian
- Logan Thomas
- Tom Savage
- Aaron Murray
- AJ McCarron
- Zach Mettenberger
- David Fales
- Kieth Wenning
- Tajh Boyd
- Garrett Gilbert
- Matt Barkley
- Ryan Nassib
- Tyler Wilson
- Landry Jones
- Brad Sorensen
- Zac Dysert
- BJ Daniels
- Sean Renfree
- Kirk Cousins
- Ryan Lindley
- B.J. Coleman
- Chandler Harnish
- Ryan Mallet
- Ricky Stanzi
- TJ Yates
- Nathan Enderle
- Tyrod Taylor
- Greg McElroy
- Michael Kafka
- John Skelton
- Jonathon Crompton
- Rusty Smith
- Dan LeFevour
- Joe Webb
- Tony Pike
- Stephen McGee
- Rhett Bomar
- Nate Davis
- Tom Brandstater
- Mike Teel
- Keith Null
- Curtis Painter
- Kevin O'Connell
- John David Booty
- Dennis Dixon
- Josh Johnson
- Erik Ainge
- Colt Brennan
- Andre' Johnson
- Matt Flynn
- Alex Brink
- Trent Edwards
- Isiah Stanback
- Jeff Rowe
- Troy Smith
- Jordan Palmer
- Tyler Thigpen
- Ingle Martin
- Omar Jacobs
- Bruce Gradkowski
- DJ Shockley
That is every QB draft in the 4th round or later in the last ten years. All 63 of them. Name any QB you want that's bucked the trend. Roger Staubach was a 10th round pick. Romo was undrafed. But for every Roger Staubach and Tony Romo there are 300 spares no one will remember. You can get quality depth in the second half of the draft in late rounds, but almost never at QB because they are so insanely overvalued. That is why I think it was a wasted pick. No offense to Dak, but I expect his name to join that list of late round QBs that did basically nothing.
Posted on 5/1/16 at 10:33 am to TeLeFaWx
Dak will do better than this if you need something to compare variables and agree Prescott wasn't a wasted pic.
Posted on 5/1/16 at 10:37 am to Hardy_Har
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Dak will do better than this if you need something to compare variables and agree Prescott wasn't a wasted pic.
Johnny Manziel is a drug addict, but his career has nothing to do with Dak. Dak is a wasted pick because he lacks the talent of Manziel.
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