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Posted on 5/2/16 at 11:09 am to DynastyDawg
Posted on 5/2/16 at 11:09 am to DynastyDawg
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Well... I wouldn't, on any planet, compare Stephen McGee and Dak Prescott. That's just a big ole troll.
McGee had much better arm strength and was much faster. He was captain checkdown though and was scared to throw the ball down the field in the pros. Their NFL careers will be nearly identical. McGee at least won a game for the Cowboys, something I don't think Prescott will ever do.
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Posted on 5/2/16 at 11:11 am to TeLeFaWx
show us on the doll where prescott touched you
Posted on 5/2/16 at 11:18 am to CoonassBulldog
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Statistically- he's one of the top 5 QB's in SEC history. Anything after that is gravy
Posted on 5/2/16 at 11:26 am to Mr. Blutarski
Does Texas have any good beaches to get beat up on?
Posted on 5/2/16 at 11:28 am to Quicksilver
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show us on the doll where prescott touched you
I like Dak. I think he was a great QB in college.
Posted on 5/2/16 at 11:46 am to TeLeFaWx
I don't get all the backlash you are getting in here. You posted that 90% of the QBs drafted in the 4th round or later will never amount to anything (it's likely much higher than that) and people come in here posting the few exceptions like this disproves the assertion.
Sure, Tom Brady and Tony Romo have been successful quarterbacks, but the likelihood of Dak Prescott having half the success of either of those two is very very very small.
He is much more likely to be a backup for a couple of years before being cut, and that's not a knock on him. He was a very capable college QB. But, there's only 32 starting NFL QBs, and you have to have insane talent to be a successful NFL QB.
Sure, Tom Brady and Tony Romo have been successful quarterbacks, but the likelihood of Dak Prescott having half the success of either of those two is very very very small.
He is much more likely to be a backup for a couple of years before being cut, and that's not a knock on him. He was a very capable college QB. But, there's only 32 starting NFL QBs, and you have to have insane talent to be a successful NFL QB.
Posted on 5/2/16 at 12:32 pm to UpToPar
I would guess for all positions the same holds true. After the first 2 rounds, the rate of success gets exponentially worse. If they had taken Dak in the 2nd round (and it wouldn't have been a surprise) it would have been a reach. But in the 4th....not so bad. He may well last a few years as a backup then get cut. Or, he may surprise, and be one of the 10% who succeed to some degree. He is talented, and has at least a shot.
Posted on 5/2/16 at 12:43 pm to PurpleandGeauld
But other positions can at least contribute.
A 4th round linebacker likely isn't going to start, but that player will provide needed depth and might be able to contribute on special teams.
A 4th round linebacker likely isn't going to start, but that player will provide needed depth and might be able to contribute on special teams.
Posted on 5/2/16 at 12:45 pm to UpToPar
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I don't get all the backlash you are getting in here. You posted that 90% of the QBs drafted in the 4th round or later will never amount to anything (it's likely much higher than that) and people come in here posting the few exceptions like this disproves the assertion.
Sure, Tom Brady and Tony Romo have been successful quarterbacks, but the likelihood of Dak Prescott having half the success of either of those two is very very very small.
He is much more likely to be a backup for a couple of years before being cut, and that's not a knock on him. He was a very capable college QB. But, there's only 32 starting NFL QBs, and you have to have insane talent to be a successful NFL QB.
Thank God. Someone gets it. And in light of the Cowboys drafting a RB in the first, and a linebacker without a nerve in his foot in the second, it was a wasted pick. If Romo goes down in the next two seasons, Dak Prescott isn't going to win a Super Bowl. The Cowboys are going to ride or die with Romo, and the defense needed the most help. A veteran QB as a stop gap like what the Colts had with Hasselbeck last year would have been a better way to go. The 4th round of the draft is where you get a nickel and dime DB or a RB. There is proven production in the 4th in roles like that EVERY SINGLE YEAR. Not a QB that's not going to see the field.
Posted on 5/2/16 at 1:00 pm to PurpleandGeauld
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I would guess for all positions the same holds true. After the first 2 rounds, the rate of success gets exponentially worse. If they had taken Dak in the 2nd round (and it wouldn't have been a surprise) it would have been a reach. But in the 4th....not so bad. He may well last a few years as a backup then get cut. Or, he may surprise, and be one of the 10% who succeed to some degree. He is talented, and has at least a shot.
I listed all 63 QBs drafted in the 4th-7th round in the past decade. Look through the list and find me once guy that's done ANYTHING. Players in the 4th-7th round contribute every year. The Denver Broncos had Malik Jackson(5th round pick), Danny Trevathan(6th round pick), and Brandon Marshall(5th round pick) START on their defense alone.
Posted on 5/2/16 at 1:02 pm to TeLeFaWx
I know you do not like the Prescott pick, but I think it is a good pick.
They needed a QB and they did not over reach to get one. I wanted Sudfeld, but Dak will do, especially if he sits 2 or 3 years.
As much as I criticize Stevie Boy he pulled together a good draft.
They needed a QB and they did not over reach to get one. I wanted Sudfeld, but Dak will do, especially if he sits 2 or 3 years.
As much as I criticize Stevie Boy he pulled together a good draft.
This post was edited on 5/2/16 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 5/2/16 at 1:03 pm to TeLeFaWx
Picking Jalen with a 2nd rounder was dumb. I know he was awesome pre-injury but he may not even play at all. Picking Dak in the 4th was, as a result, more iffy than it would have been simply because they needed defensive help that hadn't been suffiently addressed.
Posted on 5/2/16 at 1:04 pm to TeLeFaWx
I don't think anyone is disagreeing with the notion that Dak being a starter in the NFL is unlikely. But you are cherry picking stats. A lot of those QB's you listed didn't have a chance from day one due to the team that drafted them and the current state of the franchise. Dak fits into the Cowboys system very well and is surrounded by some of the best QB coaches in the NFL. Not to mention, it's likely that he will get some playing time because of Romo's tendency to get hurt during the season. I don't think it's a wasted pick at all. You keep comparing him to Manziel and he was drafted #22 overall. Should NFL scouts stop taking QB's first round becuase of all the busts over the years? No. The cowboys took a calculated risk taking Dak in the 4th round. To say it was a "wasted" pick is foolish. The Cowboys needed a QB, and Dak was the best option at the time.
This post was edited on 5/2/16 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 5/2/16 at 1:04 pm to PurpleandGeauld
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Picking Jalen with a 2nd rounder was dumb
No it was not. The Defense is not going to be as bad and their docs did the surgery.
He was not going to be there and they made a smart pick. They now have 2 Rush Ends, if they can stay healthy and out of their own way.
The help the Defense needs is already there. They get Scandrick back, which move Mo out of the way, ;lets Byron go to Nickel. Lee will be healthy. They have decent interior DL.
This post was edited on 5/2/16 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 5/2/16 at 1:04 pm to TeLeFaWx
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Look through the list and find me once guy that's done ANYTHING
Flynn holds a Packer record for TDs in a game (I think) =)
This post was edited on 5/2/16 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 5/2/16 at 2:17 pm to pivey14
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I don't think anyone is disagreeing with the notion that Dak being a starter in the NFL is unlikely. But you are cherry picking stats. A lot of those QB's you listed didn't have a chance from day one due to the team that drafted them and the current state of the franchise. Dak fits into the Cowboys system very well and is surrounded by some of the best QB coaches in the NFL. Not to mention, it's likely that he will get some playing time because of Romo's tendency to get hurt during the season. I don't think it's a wasted pick at all. You keep comparing him to Manziel and he was drafted #22 overall. Should NFL scouts stop taking QB's first round becuase of all the busts over the years? No. The cowboys took a calculated risk taking Dak in the 4th round. To say it was a "wasted" pick is foolish. The Cowboys needed a QB, and Dak was the best option at the time.
Dak doesn't fit in to the Cowboys system at all, and name any back up QB the Cowboys coaches have developed in the past 5 years. All the backups have sucked. The "calculated risk" concept is completely misapplied. They don't have a QB, proven backups are expensive, and getting a guy on his rookie deal is the most cost effective way to get a guy to do spot duty, which is why they draft them. It was 100% a wasted pick because there is no value there.
Posted on 5/2/16 at 4:14 pm to TeLeFaWx
Why are you telling us? Tell the Cowboys, dickhead.
Posted on 5/2/16 at 4:18 pm to TeLeFaWx
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Dak doesn't fit in to the Cowboys system at all, and name any back up QB the Cowboys coaches have developed in the past 5 years. All the backups have sucked. The "calculated risk" concept is completely misapplied. They don't have a QB, proven backups are expensive, and getting a guy on his rookie deal is the most cost effective way to get a guy to do spot duty, which is why they draft them. It was 100% a wasted pick because there is no value there.
Wow! Plenty of absolutes in all of that! I bet you are always right aren't you?
Posted on 5/2/16 at 7:43 pm to TeLeFaWx
There's a reason you're posting these opinions on the internet and not in the Cowboys front office.
Posted on 5/2/16 at 9:52 pm to pivey14
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There's a reason you're posting these opinions on the internet and not in the Cowboys front office.
You're not in the front office either?
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