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re: Current Ranking of SEC Men's Basketball Coaches
Posted on 3/25/21 at 12:38 pm to rockiee
Posted on 3/25/21 at 12:38 pm to rockiee
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Honestly, the best way to do this would be ranking coaches on different aspects of being a college basketball coach
1. Recruiting
2. Roster Management
3. Development
4. In game coaching/adjustments
5. etc
Everyone has different weights the put on the categories that give way different results
Good point
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Posted on 3/25/21 at 12:38 pm to diddlydawg7
quote:And whose fault is that?
Oats won the SEC in his 2nd year with less talent than Wade had
Posted on 3/25/21 at 12:40 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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quite frankly I think an argument can be made that he is #1
Yep, I think he is
He did some poor roster management, that wasn't totally his fault but still surprised at some of the success they had with that roster make up.
Posted on 3/25/21 at 12:41 pm to lsupride87
I mean I think we're pretty talented 
2 senior guys who will be drafted in the 2nd round, probably (at least 1) along with 2 guys who will be drafted in 2022 or 2023 in Quinerly and Primo, plus a wild card guy like Ellis who I think has a legitimate chance to be drafted in 2022.
Our roster next year will have more recruiting stars on it (we're going to sign a Top 5 class this year once Bediako makes it official), but the blend of experience and talent this year is pretty close to as good as you can hope for in modern college basketball.
2 senior guys who will be drafted in the 2nd round, probably (at least 1) along with 2 guys who will be drafted in 2022 or 2023 in Quinerly and Primo, plus a wild card guy like Ellis who I think has a legitimate chance to be drafted in 2022.
Our roster next year will have more recruiting stars on it (we're going to sign a Top 5 class this year once Bediako makes it official), but the blend of experience and talent this year is pretty close to as good as you can hope for in modern college basketball.
Posted on 3/25/21 at 12:41 pm to mwlewis
Wade’s teams are horrific defensively and he just rolls the ball out there and lets his goons ISO for 40 minutes.
In no way, shape, or form is he better than Oats or Muss
In no way, shape, or form is he better than Oats or Muss
Posted on 3/25/21 at 12:41 pm to lsupride87
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If going by results at the SEC school, Wade is ahead of Oats and Muss and thats not really debatable
Head-to head results. Oats 4-1
Conference championships at School- Oats 1 Wade 1
Conference tournament championships at school- Oats 1-0
NCAA tournament victories at school- Oats 2-1
Conference winning % at school. .667 for both.
Subject of severe infractions. Wade 1-0
We weren’t going by results at current school, but if we were then I’m not sure how those numbers correlate to “not debatable”
Posted on 3/25/21 at 12:42 pm to Rrrrroger
quote:Wade took over a team "talented enough" to go 2-16
Wade’s teams are horrific defensively and he just rolls the ball out there and lets his goons ISO for 40 minutes.
He then went 16-2 two years later
Oats took over a team 8-10
He went 16-2 two years later
Seems that Wade turned those goons around pretty good
Posted on 3/25/21 at 12:43 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Pearl is a stone cold lock on #2 and quite frankly I think an argument can be made that he is #1
I agree completely. Guy has gone to 3 different D1 programs, only one of which (Tennessee) had any modicum of success in their entire history. And he has won everywhere. Pearl can recruit, Pearl can coach, and Pearl can motivate his players to play hard all the time. Pearl would have done just as good if not better at Kentucky as Calipari has. Calipari knows how to recruit, but I don't think he's any a better recruiter than Pearl. Pearl just doesn't have that name to sell. And Pearl has coached circles around Calipari with inferior talent his entire career. He owned Cal when he was at UT. He is 16-9 against UK in his career (that has to be one of the best) and against Cal specifically, he is 13-6. So yes, I agree a strong argument could be made for Pearl as the best coach in the SEC.
ETA: Remember that time Pearl started Dane Bradshaw at center and made the Sweet 16?
This post was edited on 3/25/21 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 3/25/21 at 12:43 pm to rockiee
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Yep, I think he is
I mean look at his damn resume just from Tennessee/Auburn - and remember what he took over at those places
- 13 seasons
- 9 NCAAT (including 2019)
- 1 Final Four
- 1 Elite Eight
- 2 Sweet 16s
- 2 SEC Titles
- 1 SEC Tournament Title
Posted on 3/25/21 at 12:43 pm to SummerOfGeorge
quote:Pearl is fantastic. He is easily #2, and I wouldnt pick on anyone that had him #1
I mean look at his damn resume just from Tennessee/Auburn - and remember what he took over at those places
- 13 seasons
- 9 NCAAT (including 2019)
- 1 Final Four
- 1 Elite Eight
- 2 Sweet 16s
- 2 SEC Titles
- 1 SEC Tournament Title
Posted on 3/25/21 at 12:45 pm to lsufball19
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Pearl can recruit, Pearl can coach, and Pearl can motivate his players to play hard all the time.
This plays into what Rockiee was sayin earlier - you have to split up ranking guys by parts of the job. I think if you did that, Pearl would probably be one of if not the only guy who would be in the Top 3-4 of every single category.
It's kind of hilarious that Pearl's worst Tennessee team (his last one) was his "most talented".
This post was edited on 3/25/21 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 3/25/21 at 12:46 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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Riseupfromtherubble
"Bo Scarborough will be better than Fournette."
Posted on 3/25/21 at 12:49 pm to LSU Patrick
The main conclusion here is that we're arguing wins and tournament wins and all this stuff for who should be in the top "half" of the league in coaches. We've got guys who went to the Final Four in the bottom 3-4.
Compare that to this roster of chuckleheads
Dennis Felton (UGA)
Billy Gillispie (UK)
Dave Odom (Carolina)
John Pelphrey (Arkansas)
Jeff Lebo (Auburn)
Compare that to this roster of chuckleheads
Dennis Felton (UGA)
Billy Gillispie (UK)
Dave Odom (Carolina)
John Pelphrey (Arkansas)
Jeff Lebo (Auburn)
This post was edited on 3/25/21 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 3/25/21 at 12:50 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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It's kind of hilarious that Pearl's worst Tennessee team (his last one) was his "most talented".
We can thank Mike Hamilton for tanking that season
Posted on 3/25/21 at 12:51 pm to Rrrrroger
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Rrrrroger
Posted on 3/25/21 at 12:51 pm to lsupride87
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Seems that Wade turned those goons around pretty good
Oats didn't benefit from the FBI recruiting phone that Wade has.
Posted on 3/25/21 at 12:52 pm to lsufball19
All of those wins will eventually be vacated so none of that matters.
Posted on 3/25/21 at 12:53 pm to diddlydawg7
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Oats won the SEC in his 2nd year with less talent than Wade had.
Why did he have less talent? Didn't you just say Wade has poor roster management skills? Wade won that title with:
Naz Reid - freshman
Javonte Smart - freshman
Emmitt Williams - freshman
Darius Days - freshman
Tremont Waters - sophomore
Kavell Bigby-Williams - transfer from Oregon
Marlon Taylor - JUCO transfer
Skylar Mays - junior
Wade built that entire SEC title team in one year with the exception of Mays who was a freshman in Wade's first season at LSU. If Oats had less talent than Wade, wouldn't it be fair to say that is evidence that Wade knows what he's doing instead of disregarding it as an excuse for Musselman?
This post was edited on 3/25/21 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 3/25/21 at 12:57 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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It's kind of hilarious that Pearl's worst Tennessee team (his last one) was his "most talented".
Yeah, sports are weird sometimes. Pearl also has a really uncanny ability to identify guys that may not project well in the NBA but are elite-level college players that may be better in college than some of the guys who end up being lottery picks. Chris Lofton is a prime example of this. Guy was one of the best college players I've seen in this league and couldn't even get a look from Kentucky (where he was Mr. Basketball). Yet he comes into Tennessee and could make it rain from anywhere on the court.
Posted on 3/25/21 at 12:58 pm to lsufball19
I remember thinking how good a team that LSU team was because they played so physical and their emotional persona was the same way - we're gonna knock your arse out and then tell you about it. Reid, Williams, Bigsby-Williams, Taylor.....those dudes were animals. Then you mixed in Waters and the ultra cool guy under pressure Skylar Mays and it was a great mix.
It feels like they kept acting that way the last 2 seasons but their actual team makeup and nature didn't match up with it. I think they REALLY missed Skyler Mays this season.
It feels like they kept acting that way the last 2 seasons but their actual team makeup and nature didn't match up with it. I think they REALLY missed Skyler Mays this season.
This post was edited on 3/25/21 at 12:59 pm
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