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re: Could you support your team if a convicted child molester played on it?
Posted on 3/26/18 at 5:50 pm to GatorBait24
Posted on 3/26/18 at 5:50 pm to GatorBait24
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He pleaded Guilty, would you plead guilty to a child molestation charge if you didn’t do it?
Innocent until proven guilty doesn't exist in any child sex case. You have to essentially prove your innocence, which is hard when an innocent 6 year old is the State's star witness. His lawyer negotiated a deal that kept him out of jail and kept sex offender registry to a limited time frame. If there was substantial evidence of his guilt, this plea deal would not have been offered.
If I had to choose between that and the possibility of spending a long time in prison and being registered as a sex offender for life, I don't know what I'd do. But again, the reason why child sex crime cases are so difficult is because juries and judges will convict without any direct evidence, all because a child is involved.
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Posted on 3/26/18 at 5:53 pm to GatorBait24
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This kid isn’t one of them in my opinion.
That is fair, I never was trying to say that you can't create an argument for this kid being guilty. Just that pleas can be misleading and I never want someone to judge someone solely based on that, bad policy imo.
Posted on 3/26/18 at 5:55 pm to SCLibertarian
How do you not give the Benefit of the doubt to a 6 year old girl? I don’t think there are many 6 year old girls out there actively seeking out men to pin Child Molestation charges on. If a 6 year old says something like that it’s hard not to be biased. So you are right maybe we should take a hard look at how we are prosecuting these cases. I’m not expert.
Posted on 3/26/18 at 5:57 pm to rockiee
Perfectly fair, and I usually don’t even care if someone is convicted of something, good people make mistakes all of the time. However Murder, Rape, and perpetual domestic violence should be looked at differently in my opinion. Those people shouldn’t get the benefit of the doubt.
Posted on 3/26/18 at 6:02 pm to GatorBait24
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How do you not give the Benefit of the doubt to a 6 year old girl?
Because children are the least developed intellectually and emotionally and are the most easily manipulated people in our society. I can't tell you how many times parents manipulate their kids into making these allegations to get a leg up in a divorce or custody case, which is why the brother's ex-wife making the allegation got my attention.
An example of the cognitive dissonance we have on this issue would be minors and contracts. If you're under 18, you cannot legally enter into a contract because you're deemed to not have the capacity to understand the document. But yet we will allow people's lives and freedom to be decided based on the legal testimony of someone who is almost a toddler.
Posted on 3/26/18 at 6:08 pm to OleManDixon
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The state typically overcharges so it can eventually make a plea “deal” that ends up with a conviction for the actual crime. Plea deals are rarely legitimate deals.
Sure they overcharge so they can get a conviction for a lesser offense. That doesn't mean there was no crime committed.
Posted on 3/26/18 at 6:12 pm to SCLibertarian
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Because children are the least developed intellectually and emotionally and are the most easily manipulated people in our society. I can't tell you how many times parents manipulate their kids into making these allegations to get a leg up in a divorce or custody case, which is why the brother's ex-wife making the allegation got my attention.
Very true, just had a trial on exactly that. DCS even said the allegations were unfounded not to mention the little girls statements not being consistent. Who do you think the female judge I had sided with? And these were allegations made against her step brother with no supporting evidence. The criminal investigator even declined interviewing anyone because there, quite frankly, wasn't anything there. And yes, this judgment is being appealed.
This post was edited on 3/26/18 at 6:14 pm
Posted on 3/26/18 at 6:27 pm to lsufball19
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Sure they overcharge so they can get a conviction for a lesser offense. That doesn't mean there was no crime committed.
That’s why I didn’t say that.
Posted on 3/26/18 at 6:27 pm to GatorBait24
Depends. If I had no way to really win the case because it's he said she said and my attorney said I had little chance of convincing a jury...and I could get out without serious prison time, where I'd get raped and beaten for the crime I didn't do..
Then yea I'd plead.
Then yea I'd plead.
Posted on 3/26/18 at 6:47 pm to RT1941
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That was sick shite. Who was UT's coach back then, Kiffin/Dooley
Kiffin. If I remember correctly, Daniel Hood was like 13 at the time and was the "lookout", not the rapist. NOT THAT THAT'S ACCEPTABLE OR EXCUSABLE IN ANY WAY, DON'T frickING @ME YOU COCKSUCKERS.
He did time at Taft Youth Penitentiary, and Kiffin wouldn't have signed him if the victim herself hadn't written a letter of recommendation on Hood's behalf.
Posted on 3/26/18 at 7:11 pm to TeddyWestside
Just an accusation of pedophilia can ruin someone’s life. A cloud of suspicion persists for a very long time even if the accused is exonerated.
For most of us the crime is more heinous than even murder. That makes me wonder why we don’t devote the same forensic efforts to child molestation crimes that we do to murders.
An accused murderer who is acquitted can recover and move on with his life. A charge of pedophilia, even if it’s proved to be hearsay, can devastate a person’s life.
For most of us the crime is more heinous than even murder. That makes me wonder why we don’t devote the same forensic efforts to child molestation crimes that we do to murders.
An accused murderer who is acquitted can recover and move on with his life. A charge of pedophilia, even if it’s proved to be hearsay, can devastate a person’s life.
Posted on 3/26/18 at 7:16 pm to GatorBait24
This you fight it until the day u die if you are innocent
ETA.
I have seen how horrible this accusation can affect someone’s life. Thankfully in the case I know of CPS was able to determine the accusation was BS. Still sucks for the person though .
ETA.
I have seen how horrible this accusation can affect someone’s life. Thankfully in the case I know of CPS was able to determine the accusation was BS. Still sucks for the person though .
This post was edited on 3/26/18 at 7:20 pm
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