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re: Could Saban have had the same success if he never left LSU?
Posted on 7/7/21 at 6:51 pm to coachcrisp
Posted on 7/7/21 at 6:51 pm to coachcrisp
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Posted on 7/7/21 at 6:53 pm to mbogo
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Actually, it shows how special Alabama is when Saban couldn't get to back to back 10 win seasons in 5 years at LSU when he hasn't had fewer than 10 in any season at Bama after the first one.
He had to build up the LSU program as some guy from up North.
When he came to Alabama, he was already a proven commodity in the SEC with a national championship ring and a stint as an NFL head coach.
Posted on 7/7/21 at 7:01 pm to SidewalkTiger
This is probably off topic but I would say this about college coaches and the NFL.
Chip Kelly > Nick Saban in the NFL
Matt Rhule > Nick Saban in the NFL
However, Nick Saban > Matt Rhule & Chip Kelly in College Football
Furthermore, the enigma I’m trying to solve is wtf happened to Chip Kelly post NFL?
Oregon Chip Kelly > UCLA Chip Kelly
He was literally a pioneer of the hurry up no huddle (HUNH) offense which is still known to put up points. He can’t recruit?
One day I can see Matt Rhule in the SEC if he has a chip Kelly type nfl career.
Chip Kelly > Nick Saban in the NFL
Matt Rhule > Nick Saban in the NFL
However, Nick Saban > Matt Rhule & Chip Kelly in College Football
Furthermore, the enigma I’m trying to solve is wtf happened to Chip Kelly post NFL?
Oregon Chip Kelly > UCLA Chip Kelly
He was literally a pioneer of the hurry up no huddle (HUNH) offense which is still known to put up points. He can’t recruit?
One day I can see Matt Rhule in the SEC if he has a chip Kelly type nfl career.
Posted on 7/7/21 at 7:05 pm to SidewalkTiger
No. Too much corruption. Hell, we backed into the only one he had here.
Posted on 7/7/21 at 7:08 pm to JayAg
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Furthermore, the enigma I’m trying to solve is wtf happened to Chip Kelly post NFL?
His offense isn't nearly as effective since the offensive revolution in college football IMO.
Same with Jimbo.
Posted on 7/7/21 at 7:10 pm to Tigahtildeath
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No. Too much corruption. Hell, we backed into the only one he had here
What
Posted on 7/7/21 at 7:10 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Posted on 7/7/21 at 7:15 pm to SidewalkTiger
Of course- After his natty in 2003, if he stays at LSU he wins in 2006 and 2007 (Back to Back), then he wins again in 2011 because he would not have had to face himself. Saban also wins 1 between 2011 and 2019 and lets add 2019.
Total he would have about 6 at LSU (what a hell of a deal). We have 3 in that time period, just imagine 3 more. That would be 6 in 20 years. That would have been a 30% rate of Natty's
Total he would have about 6 at LSU (what a hell of a deal). We have 3 in that time period, just imagine 3 more. That would be 6 in 20 years. That would have been a 30% rate of Natty's
Posted on 7/7/21 at 7:16 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Same with Jimbo.
Jimbo runs a pro style offense, I did notice his SEC adjustment was running the QB in shotgun vs under center more, real boring grind the clock offense, needs more explosive plays
Chip ran an Air Raid, like we had under Sumlin, more explosive, more points usually but a lot of 3 and outs your defense gets tired, his Bruins have games where they explode vs conference play but very inconsistent, maybe Chip can’t recruit
Posted on 7/7/21 at 7:27 pm to Dubaitiger
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That would have been a 30% rate of Natty's
………50% laughs… loudly………
Posted on 7/7/21 at 7:27 pm to DirtyDawg
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considering Alabama is traditionally the only road block for LSU as of late
That is an LSU talking point only. Mississippi, Auburn and A&M have as many of more wins against Alabama as LSU in the last 10 years.
And LSU has AVERAGED finishing third or fourth in the SECw since 2008, not second. They have lost games to A&M, Mississippi, M. State, Missouri, Florida, Arkansas, Auburn in the SEC… they are hardly the main competition to Alabama.
LSU has usually been a good solid SEC team…true… I hate it but Auburn has been a much bigger thorn in Alabama’s side.
This post was edited on 7/7/21 at 7:28 pm
Posted on 7/7/21 at 7:28 pm to SidewalkTiger
Maybe. I think he needed his failure in the NFL to become the legend he is. 70-80% of what he has done is my prediction for what.
I would take him back in a heartbeat. Instantly become better while making your top target weaker!! I am an LSU Tiger fan, not a grudge holding bitch. Any LSU fan that says they wouldn't is a liar, a crying bitch, but most likely both.
I would take him back in a heartbeat. Instantly become better while making your top target weaker!! I am an LSU Tiger fan, not a grudge holding bitch. Any LSU fan that says they wouldn't is a liar, a crying bitch, but most likely both.
Posted on 7/7/21 at 7:29 pm to JayAg
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Chip ran an Air Raid, like we had under Sumlin, more explosive, more points usually but a lot of 3 and outs your defense gets tired, his Bruins have games where they explode vs conference play but very inconsistent, maybe Chip can’t recruit
I think his style gets a lot of three and outs like you said meanwhile the other teams are scoring more than ever before.
It isn't so much his scheme that isn't working these days, more the approach with which he runs it.
I think you'll see Leach at State run into the same types of issues.
Posted on 7/7/21 at 7:30 pm to SidewalkTiger
Duh...?
Posted on 7/7/21 at 7:40 pm to SidewalkTiger
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I think you'll see Leach at State run into the same types of issues.
This is all I remember about playing Leach in the Big 12, his offense was putting up points with QB’s that weren’t even ranked by recruit services, with the exception of Harrell.
2006, 2007, 2008 - Graham Harrell - 4 star prospect
2005 – Cody Hodges, NR
2004 – Sonny Cumbie, NR
2003 – B.J. Symons, NR
2002 – Kliff Kingsbury, NR
2001 – Kliff Kingsbury, NR
2000 – Kliff Kingsbury, NR
When he has his offense book 100% in at State, it’s going to put up numbers, just maybe not consistently, and I think KJ Costello is best (highest) recruit Leach has ever had too, but then you get into a hope/potential vs reality discussion
Posted on 7/7/21 at 7:45 pm to SidewalkTiger
No. LSU isn’t capable of what Saban has done in Tuscaloosa. How is that not obvious?
Posted on 7/7/21 at 7:51 pm to SidewalkTiger
"What if Saban " thread...by an LSU fan....los ciento amigo! Lol
Posted on 7/7/21 at 7:54 pm to Jacknola
Alabama is everyone’s roadblock. How is that an “LSU talking point only” 
Also no need to throw the fourth in there. Our average finish since 08 is 2.46th. My math could be off there though
Also no need to throw the fourth in there. Our average finish since 08 is 2.46th. My math could be off there though
This post was edited on 7/7/21 at 8:07 pm
Posted on 7/7/21 at 7:58 pm to jackieMoon55
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We have won a National Championship with both of his successors, I think it’s obvious he could have won a couple more as well.
Probably would have had 8 or 9. No one would have built Bama into a juggernaut so it would really just be LSU running the thing.
Posted on 7/7/21 at 7:59 pm to SidewalkTiger
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He had to build up the LSU program as some guy from up North.
When he came to Alabama, he was already a proven commodity in the SEC with a national championship ring and a stint as an NFL head coach.
Always the fricking excuses!
Why won't you people just man up to the proven facts!
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