re: Could Oklahoma screw the BIG XII?

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All I can say about your bitching about the Big 12 TV contract is, you should have won more football games.

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Big 12 teams that were televised more than A&M in 2009:

Kansas (5-7) - televised 8 times
Colorado (3-9) - televised 10 times
Baylor (4-8) - televised 8 times

Your argument fails.

Even during the 2010 season (share of the south division title), A&M was only televised 8 times. The Nebraska game in Game 11 was only televised REGIONALLY. I couldn't watch it in North Carolina

During the 2011 season, where A&M was a preseason top 10 team, they were only televised 10 times. Of those 10, only 7 were national broadcasts.

It's definitely posturing. It's ALL posturing. That's what the league has been about for a long time.

Texas won't tell OU what they are in favor of, because Texas doesn't want to make changes. They care about what is good for Texas, not whether the league is viable.

So OU has been going public with their "concerns"... This is all not surprising at all.

So glad we don't have to deal with that mess anymore

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It's hard to accept that other people don't think as highly as you think of yourselves, no?

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We were pretty close to accepting it at the end of the 2000's, but then the SEC invite gave us the metaphorical equivalent of a Stuart Smalley speech.

Looking at OU boards the ones that want to leave want either the Pac or Big. Not many want to come to the SEC.

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Looking at OU boards the ones that want to leave want either the Pac or Big. Not many want to come to the SEC.

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That is because they know how competitive the SEC is.... Oklahoma is a lot like Texas. They think they are the best, but they are going to always position their program to be at a competitive advantage. The Big 12 is an easy enough league that Oklahoma should always have a real shot at winning the title each year.

Historically, Oklahoma is a Top 3 program. But in modern-day football, there are 16 programs that are all pretty much on the same level if you combine athletic budgets, facilities, fan support, recruiting abilities, commitment to paying large sums of money to coaches, etc.

These programs are (in no official order):

Alabama
Auburn
Florida
Georgia
LSU
Tennessee
Oklahoma
Texas
Notre Dame
Michigan
Ohio State
Florida State
USC
Oregon
Clemson
Texas A&M

I would say Penn State, Miami, Nebraska, South Carolina, Arkansas, Wisconsin, UCLA, Michigan State, Virginia Tech, Stanford, and a few others are slightly behind in the next grouping.

But Oklahoma knows that of those 15 other programs who have what it takes to compete with their own program, 7 of them are located in the SEC.... with Arkansas, South Carolina, Ole Miss, and even Mississippi State and Missouri not too far off behind.

The 9 non-SEC programs on this list (Oklahoma, Texas, Notre Dame, USC, Michigan, Ohio State, Florida State, Oregon, & Clemson) honestly don't have the guts to join the SEC.... I think only Clemson would jump at the chance, and that's more from a geographical standpoint. Oklahoam would be the only other one to consider it.

Texas A&M looked at joining the SEC as a pedestal to help give them an advantage over Texas and Oklahoma. Oklahoma would see the competition in the SEC as a hindrance that might knock them off their pedestal.

Either way, I think it would be a good fit. And I wish they'd join the league.

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Still waiting on that link about 2009's Big 12 contract requiring all 12 teams get one ABC football appearance.

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It wasn't in the contract, it was more an rigidly enforced gentleman's agreement from the beginning:

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The ABC agreement limits a team to six appearances; there are no limitations on the number of times a school can appear on the FSN package. FSN and the Big 12 work cooperatively to assure that each institution receives at least one appearance, but there is no contractual provision that mandates that. In the history of the Big 12, each institution has had at least one appearance on either ABC or FSN (or a sublicensee like TBS/ESPN) every year.

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The only thing contractually stipulated is not more than six appearances. That continued after 2009:

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That says absolutely nothing about a game exclusive to ABC.

Why do the tea sippers feel the need to come to a non-rival's conference board and preen themselves?

After all, we were told in the media by Deloss Dodds that TAMU was never a real rival for tu, and how us leaving the XII means we forfeited the privilege of playing them, and how playing us was never a big deal to them. This was after (according to Dr. Loftin's book) Dodds stood up and shook his finger at then AD Bill Byrne and then President Loftin and told them that tu would never ever play A&M again if we left for the SEC. We left, tu refused to schedule us, and we've moved on. I'm sorry they felt that way.

Arkansas has moved on. An Missouri has moved on.

So why are the 'sips here? To give the SEC fans a taste of why no one wants them?

At least most of the OU fans are pleasant folks.

I'm sure Texashorn is a 70 something year old man that grandma dropped off at the old man bar while she gets her hair done or runs errands this time of day. Anyone else notice that he "comes alive" about this time every day? I picture him sipping warm foamy beer out of a white styrofoam cup in a bar with brown paneling and carpet watching the LHN on an old dial tv, bragging to his other old man friends about how he's trolling the Aggies. In about an hour, grandma will come and pick him up and they'll go to Luby's for supper and split a LouAnn platter and be home before 6. And he'll be drunker than cooter brown.

Hey, what about that lie you told yesterday? You know, the one where you said that TAMU gave away 30 to 35k football tickets each game to students for free?

You're the piece of shite alter that pretends to be a Kentucky Fan, but you are not. Have you ever stepped foot in a college before?

Why would I have an alter?

Checks out lestertheghost post history, yes, we are the obsessed ones here.