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Could a 50-55 year old Bryant or Saban win the national title at Nebraska in 5 years?
Posted on 8/28/21 at 8:51 pm
Posted on 8/28/21 at 8:51 pm
Given complete unquestioned control.
I say no.
I say no.
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Posted on 8/28/21 at 8:53 pm to TheFourHorsemen
I think Saban could do it at his current age. He would probably need 4-5 years
Posted on 8/28/21 at 8:53 pm to TheFourHorsemen
Well Saban wouldn't have to deal with his arch nemesis Jordan Hare so maybe
Posted on 8/28/21 at 8:56 pm to TheFourHorsemen
I say no.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 8:59 pm to TheFourHorsemen
I think so. I think Saban could do it at his current age. Nebraska’s only problem is recruiting.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 9:09 pm to TheFourHorsemen
Good question. The decline started bigtime in the B12 and has just continued. A disaster of a program.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 9:12 pm to TheFourHorsemen
Not five years. It would take awhile but he could pull it off.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 9:15 pm to TheFourHorsemen
50-55 year old Saban was a damn good recruiter for LSU, but during that timespan in his career we’re hypothetically taking him and placing him at Nebraska now?
I don’t think so, I think he wins 10-11 games a year but even then Nebraska is fricking dead and Sabans rep isn’t near what it is now at that age. He’d bring in some good talent but Nebraska is nothing like the advantage of Louisiana and the south in general recruiting.
I think 60-65 year old Saban would definitely win a natty there though in 5 years from now.
I don’t think so, I think he wins 10-11 games a year but even then Nebraska is fricking dead and Sabans rep isn’t near what it is now at that age. He’d bring in some good talent but Nebraska is nothing like the advantage of Louisiana and the south in general recruiting.
I think 60-65 year old Saban would definitely win a natty there though in 5 years from now.
This post was edited on 8/28/21 at 9:16 pm
Posted on 8/28/21 at 9:19 pm to TheFourHorsemen
Y'all are fricking stupid. He's literally the greatest coach in the history of cfb. If it was all about recruits in the footprint of the university, Miami, Georgia Tech, USC and UCLA would be winning more and Michigan State, Oregon, Washington would never make a playoff. Coaching matters, and Saban not only is the GOAT, he's a kingmaker in terms of coaches. He'd bag a great coaching staff and have top 5 classes instantly as long as the AD stayed out of his way. Crazy how y'all forget how bad the West was before he got there and raised the level of that side of the conference.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 9:24 pm to Frac the world
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50-55 year old Saban was a damn good recruiter for LSU, but during that timespan in his career we’re hypothetically taking him and placing him at Nebraska now?
I don’t think so, I think he wins 10-11 games a year but even then Nebraska is fricking dead and Sabans rep isn’t near what it is now at that age. He’d bring in some good talent but Nebraska is nothing like the advantage of Louisiana and the south in general recruiting.
I think 60-65 year old Saban would definitely win a natty there though in 5 years from now.
Oregon is just as far away from any talent and they got to the playoffs and were a natty contender every year with Kelly and Helfrich, two garbage recruiters. One 11 win season with Saban at the helm and Nebraska will skyrocket. It'd be Ryan Days worst fricking nightmare
Posted on 8/28/21 at 9:24 pm to ptclaus98
It really can't be underestimated that one of Alabama's long detractors was "You can't recruit big time stars anymore to po-dunk Tuscaloosa!" A city smaller than it's stadium and nearly an hour away from even a Trader Joes or an Apple Store.
If he can do it here, I could see him working at least some magic in Lincoln.
If he can do it here, I could see him working at least some magic in Lincoln.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 9:27 pm to TheFourHorsemen
Yes. If a school starts winning, players will start going there. Add in the reputation Saban has for sending guys to the NFL, and you'll start getting good recruits. However, you also have to win and you have to beat good teams with a group of players who might not be the best (2008 Alabama, notable example). Finding the right players for a system that works is the tricky part and it's something Harbaugh is struggling with.
Frost never had the reputation of Nick Saban, Bear Bryant or Jim Harbaugh. He isn't beating people he's not supposed to but is actually losing to teams he shouldn't. How is he supposed to build a program with that? He sucks
People said the same thing about Alabama not having enough talent anymore in 2006, for the record.
Frost never had the reputation of Nick Saban, Bear Bryant or Jim Harbaugh. He isn't beating people he's not supposed to but is actually losing to teams he shouldn't. How is he supposed to build a program with that? He sucks
People said the same thing about Alabama not having enough talent anymore in 2006, for the record.
This post was edited on 8/28/21 at 9:28 pm
Posted on 8/28/21 at 9:30 pm to Lordofwrath88
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It really can't be underestimated that one of Alabama's long detractors was "You can't recruit big time stars anymore to po-dunk Tuscaloosa!" A city smaller than it's stadium and nearly an hour away from even a Trader Joes or an Apple Store.
If he can do it here, I could see him working at least some magic in Lincoln.
It's fricking ridiculous. People seriously think that if your school isn't in Georgia, Texas, Cali, Florida, or Louisiana, you can't win. It's been proven time and time and time again, a successful football program is about coaches, players, AND admin all working in partnership. If Nebraska hired prime Saban, and let him loose with the resources they have, kids would come.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 9:35 pm to Bama Bird
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Finding the right players for a system that works is the tricky part and it's something Harbaugh is struggling with
Harbaugh is letting Ohio State into his thought process way too much. His brand of football from Stanford is still plenty good enough to win 9-10 games a year in the B10, and he's still married to it, but trying to move into a system that he doesn't understand. He's trying to recruit spread personnel and still wants deep down to play 11/12 personnel offenses and that's a recipe for disaster.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 9:35 pm to ptclaus98
You get it. People also like to pretend Oklahoma hasn't been, at worst, the third most successful program over the last 20 years, or the fact that Texas (with every advantage in the world) has also been very average for the last decade. Or that Kansas basketball, in a similar situation, continues to win at high levels.
I also feel like people underestimate Nebraska itself- we're not talking about New Mexico. Nebraska has a ton of money, great fan support, good facilities... everything you'd expect to find at a top program. They just lack the right guy and that's way easier said than done (as Tennessee is aware). Most coaches don't work out, but to pretend it's impossible is just dumb
I also feel like people underestimate Nebraska itself- we're not talking about New Mexico. Nebraska has a ton of money, great fan support, good facilities... everything you'd expect to find at a top program. They just lack the right guy and that's way easier said than done (as Tennessee is aware). Most coaches don't work out, but to pretend it's impossible is just dumb
Posted on 8/28/21 at 9:39 pm to ptclaus98
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Oregon is just as far away from any talent and they got to the playoffs and were a natty contender every year with Kelly and Helfrich, two garbage recruiters
That was pure scheme and offensive genius for its time. Oregon was running the hurry up no huddle before everyone else. They haven’t done shite since for a reason, everyone is running it now. Saban at 50-55 is running old school offense with reliance on defense, which doesn’t exist anymore.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 9:40 pm to TheFourHorsemen
Yes.
That being said it might take a big longer with the prop 48's being gone.
That being said it might take a big longer with the prop 48's being gone.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 9:40 pm to TheFourHorsemen
If things go right 3-4 years to win a NC.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 9:40 pm to TheFourHorsemen
No
Posted on 8/28/21 at 9:42 pm to Frac the world
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That was pure scheme and offensive genius for its time. Oregon was running the hurry up no huddle before everyone else. They haven’t done shite since for a reason, everyone is running it now. Saban at 50-55 is running old school offense with reliance on defense, which doesn’t exist anymore.
Now do Washington and Michigan State.
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