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re: Corndog Commitment to Academics

Posted on 1/27/23 at 8:29 am to
Posted by NaturalStateReb
Arkansas
Member since Jun 2012
1443 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 8:29 am to
Figure it wouldn't take long for that legislative auditor to take a look at all of those Big Chief tablets and fat pencils at LSU.
Posted by BigTastey
Middle Georgia
Member since Feb 2019
3418 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 8:31 am to
Ok.. I will play along.
What do Alabama, SMU, Penn State, Notre Dame and Ole Miss have in common?
They each had to vacate wins due to cheating and the only schools to come close to the death penalty.
But the OP topic is education so here you go.
Bama had 201 athletes across 16 sports involved with text book scandal and it was started by football players.
It was not just giving $500 each to two brothers or the Don Fuell crap. It was in excess of $40,000 and took place for years. Bama commitment to education almost cost them the death penalty.
This post was edited on 1/27/23 at 8:49 am
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
18308 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 8:32 am to
Academia as a whole needs revamping.
Posted by BigTastey
Middle Georgia
Member since Feb 2019
3418 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 8:34 am to

"Although the committee commends the institution for self-discovering, investigating and reporting the textbook violations, it remains troubled, nonetheless, by the scope of the violations in this instance and by the institution's recent history of infractions cases. In fact, not only is the University of Alabama currently a "repeat violator," because of the 2002 case, it was also in a "repeat violator" status when that case was adjudicated and when a 1999 case was decided. The committee addressed this issue in its February 1, 2002, decision in the previous Alabama case (Infractions Report No. 193):
Of foremost concern to the committee is that this is the second time in two years that the institution has appeared before the committee as a repeat major violator under NCAA Bylaw 19.6.2.3, following a major infractions case in football in 1995 (1999 men's basketball and 2001 football).
NCAA Bylaw 19.5.2.3.1 defines a "repeat violator" as the following:
An institution shall be considered a "repeat violator" if the Committee on Infractions finds that a major violation has occurred within five years of the starting date of a major penalty. For this provision to apply, at least one major violation must have occurred within five years after the starting date of the penalties in the previous case. It is not necessary that the Committee on Infractions' hearing be conducted or its report issued within the five-year period.
In fact, because of the institution's extensive recent history of infractions cases, the committee strongly considered making a more serious finding of a lack of institutional control, rather than a failure to monitor. However, because the institution ultimately detected the violations and promptly reported them, the committee decided against making the more serious finding of lack of institutional control.
A member of the Southeastern Conference, the institution has an enrollment of approximately 25,580 students. The institution sponsors seven men's and 10 women's intercollegiate sports. This was the institution's fifth major infractions case. As previously mentioned, the institution appeared before the committee in 2001, 1999 and 1995. Prior to that string of cases, the institution's remaining case was in 1964."
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23711 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 8:34 am to
I will say this much. Financially speaking, I imagine football's in the black.
I wonder does the Professor's department bring in the kind of money football does?
Posted by BigTastey
Middle Georgia
Member since Feb 2019
3418 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 8:37 am to
Don't open your damn mouths about Auburn being the most corrupt program in the SEC. Big brother has that distinction.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23711 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 8:38 am to
We paid for a few textbooks. You bought players.
Posted by BigTastey
Middle Georgia
Member since Feb 2019
3418 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 8:42 am to
Don't deflect.
This post was edited on 1/27/23 at 8:48 am
Posted by BigTastey
Middle Georgia
Member since Feb 2019
3418 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 8:47 am to
Don't get defensive. I was merely posting about Bama's commitment to education like you were with LSU.
Posted by Imber
Member since Sep 2017
12998 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 8:50 am to
Mann was Kathleen Blanco's communications director. Do with that what you will.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64606 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 8:57 am to
quote:

You bought players.

You’ve dove that too. Why do you think the textbooks made you a repeat violator?
Posted by BigTastey
Middle Georgia
Member since Feb 2019
3418 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 8:59 am to
Want some more????
"The National Collegiate Athletic Association’s Division I Committee on Infractions has penalized the University of Alabama’s athletics program for major rules violations involving hundreds of athletes in more than a dozen sports, the association announced Thursday,
The penalties mark the fourth time in 14 years that the NCAA has sanctioned Alabama for rules violations."
Buck Fama!
Posted by BigTastey
Middle Georgia
Member since Feb 2019
3418 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 9:00 am to
He forgets about Albert Means and the boys.
Posted by terriblegreen
Souf Badden Rewage
Member since Aug 2011
9618 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 9:03 am to
RENT FREEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41896 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 9:07 am to
quote:

never said anything good or bad about the Corndogs I merely posted a story concerning their commitment to academics.

Make of it what you will.


Admiting you're a troll
Posted by Swampcat
Member since Dec 2003
10250 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 9:08 am to
?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66463 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 9:17 am to
We just don’t trust Robert Mann.
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
29021 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 9:38 am to
Can always count on Bama and Aggie fans delivering news of all things LSU.
Posted by Walnut
College Station, TX
Member since Nov 2014
3562 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:02 am to
LSU takes care of their professors, but some of them think they should have Google tier expenses because the school has a successful football program
Posted by FinleyStreet
Member since Aug 2011
7901 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:03 am to
quote:

Corndog Commitment to Academics


A payroll error has nothing to do with a school's commitment (or lack thereof) to academics, so this thread title doesn't make sense.

Payroll errors happen from time to time and can be difficult to spot if they aren't material to the payroll as a whole. That being said, they obviously have poor controls around their payroll process, which isn't exactly surprising given it's a university, not a publicly traded company.

It's also entirely possible BK didn't notice the payroll error. The vast majority of people don't bother looking at their paystubs.

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A former colleague and I have been texting about when we led a study-abroad program & LSU dogged us over every penny of every expense.


First of all, expense tracking is an entirely separate process from payroll, and is generally much easier to review, so I'm not sure what this guy's point is.

Second of all, academic budgets are completely separate from football budgets. You are being "dogged" because you are operating out of entirely different budget (and I'd wager a much lower one). It's an apples and oranges comparison.

Quote from the article:
quote:

It’s certainly quite a dichotomy.


It's really not at all, if you understand basic finance and how government budgets work.
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