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re: Cody Campbell (TTU super booster): Alabama, Auburn too poor to compete
Posted on 1/21/26 at 6:42 am to SEC Doctor
Posted on 1/21/26 at 6:42 am to SEC Doctor
Anyone who is of the opinion that CFB powers have changed permanently have no sense of history nor organizational culture. Yes, there is a window open at the moment where Indiana can win a natty and Texas Tech can have a good, if not great year. Vanderbilt for fricks sake was a couple of plays away from being undefeated. These are mere facts....that window is open. It is highly unlikely to stay open. Historically there are about 20-30 programs who actually compete at the highest level....those programs have done so for a LONG time. There is nothing special about the water in Tuscaloosa Alabama, it is basically the same substance that exists in Lubbock Texas. What is different is organizational expectations and YEARS of operating at the highest level of efficiency as an organization....its not a one off, every couple of decade thing...it is an ongoing systemic attention to details that is all consuming and requires massive amounts of resources which less efficient programs simply do not have the will to expend because their expectations are not at the same level. Without a significant shift in those expectations it is damn near impossible for an organization to significantly change their direction over a sustained period of time....and doing so means you are still competing with other, like minded organizations who have been doing it for many years and has it honed to a science.
The consensus seems to be that it is all about money. This has not changed. The amounts have grown significantly but the one thing you can count on about money is the more you have of it the less efficient you will be with it. A family of 4 living within their means on $100k a year is far more efficient with their money compared to the same family with $200k, out of necessity. Efficiency is learned behavior over time...it is not something an organization can improve significantly in a short period of time. The Alabama's of the world, if they have less money now than the Texas Tech's, have ALWAYS had less money. This did not happen 4 years ago, if it is true today it was true in the 70s.
The Alabama's of the world, few and far between, have proven over a LONG period of time to be more capable of navigating the waters they sail and do so very successfully because that is the ONLY acceptable outcome. The same is true of the Texas Tech's of the world except in reverse....as evidenced by the reaction of the fan base's THIS season. Alabama had a .733 winning % compared to TT at .857. Pretty similar. Alabama's schedule was probably twice as competitive than TT. Alabama played Oklahoma and Georgia twice, both playoff teams ALL 3 of those teams, Oklahoma, Georgia and Texas Tech had the EXACT same record in the playoffs....0-1. Alabama had a better playoff record at 1-1 than all 3. Alabama, Oklahoma and Georgia have fan bases who are not satisfied with those results, the organizational expectations are much higher, and all 3 have a LONG history of living up to those high expectations somewhat consistently. Texas Tech had what is arguably their best season EVER and their fan base, while not satisfied, are thrilled with doing something the have never done before.
All of the money in the world will not change the fact that it is organization culture that is the difference...and that culture will eventually rise to the top again because nothing has changed except the amount of money....add as many zeros as you want, nothing will ever make you anything other than what you have always been unless you change that culture...and that is damn near unheard of in humanity. The fact that the Indiana's and TT's and Vandy's of the world think the thing that has always held them back were prohibitions against cheating is why those types of programs will ALWAYS be second tier....they look for excuses instead of fixes. That's cultural and unlikely to change. The window is open.....they better jump through it because the window will slam shut in a couple of years and they will once again be what they have always been.
The consensus seems to be that it is all about money. This has not changed. The amounts have grown significantly but the one thing you can count on about money is the more you have of it the less efficient you will be with it. A family of 4 living within their means on $100k a year is far more efficient with their money compared to the same family with $200k, out of necessity. Efficiency is learned behavior over time...it is not something an organization can improve significantly in a short period of time. The Alabama's of the world, if they have less money now than the Texas Tech's, have ALWAYS had less money. This did not happen 4 years ago, if it is true today it was true in the 70s.
The Alabama's of the world, few and far between, have proven over a LONG period of time to be more capable of navigating the waters they sail and do so very successfully because that is the ONLY acceptable outcome. The same is true of the Texas Tech's of the world except in reverse....as evidenced by the reaction of the fan base's THIS season. Alabama had a .733 winning % compared to TT at .857. Pretty similar. Alabama's schedule was probably twice as competitive than TT. Alabama played Oklahoma and Georgia twice, both playoff teams ALL 3 of those teams, Oklahoma, Georgia and Texas Tech had the EXACT same record in the playoffs....0-1. Alabama had a better playoff record at 1-1 than all 3. Alabama, Oklahoma and Georgia have fan bases who are not satisfied with those results, the organizational expectations are much higher, and all 3 have a LONG history of living up to those high expectations somewhat consistently. Texas Tech had what is arguably their best season EVER and their fan base, while not satisfied, are thrilled with doing something the have never done before.
All of the money in the world will not change the fact that it is organization culture that is the difference...and that culture will eventually rise to the top again because nothing has changed except the amount of money....add as many zeros as you want, nothing will ever make you anything other than what you have always been unless you change that culture...and that is damn near unheard of in humanity. The fact that the Indiana's and TT's and Vandy's of the world think the thing that has always held them back were prohibitions against cheating is why those types of programs will ALWAYS be second tier....they look for excuses instead of fixes. That's cultural and unlikely to change. The window is open.....they better jump through it because the window will slam shut in a couple of years and they will once again be what they have always been.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 6:50 am to SEC Doctor
A fool and their money soon part ways
Posted on 1/21/26 at 6:57 am to mrbroker
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Contributions are not tax deductible. You best have deep pockets to give the kind of money these guys are willing to give.
A cap on salary spending like the NFL model may be the way to go but not sure the legal issues since these guys are not considered employees.
The thing about someone giving someone else money is the giver has some expectations of getting something in return. There was NOTHING stopping Mark Cuban from giving Texas Tech, if that is what is said happened, 4 years ago, or whenever NIL started. Those donors got a helluva but disappointing season in all but Indiana's case. UGA donors have proven over time to continue to donate when disappointed with the outcome. Using restrictions against cheating as an excuse to not do what everyone was doing is indicative of a culture where looking for excuses is on a level playing field with satisfactory results. That won't change by tossing more money at the problem. At some point in time the TT's and Vandy's will need to do what Indiana has done, and do so for an expended period of time, or those expectations will never come to fruition no matter how much money is spent.
Alabama is the poster child for being the biggest loser in the NIL era. Most of that is based on the hatred the rest of CFB has for Alabama....but Alabama had a better record in the playoffs this year than 7 of 12 teams in the playoff this year. Programmatically they did something NONE of those 7 teams has done in the 12 game playoff and that is win a playoff game. They are HIGHLY unsatisfied and no one would be shocked if they did not fire everybody involved. Discounting that mind set as delusional and insane is easy to do BUT it should be done with the understanding that the mindset at Alabama has not changed and they have proven over a LONG period of time to be the best there is in CFB. Dismissing that fact out of hand is illogical....there is nothing special about the water in Tuscaloosa...every drinks basically the same compound. The difference is the cultural expectations.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 7:26 am to Boomer65
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This won't be an overnight change. It will take 3 - 5 years. But, the declline has begun. Cody is correct. Schools like Alabama, Auburn and Oklahoma don't have the resources to sustain their programs at a competitive level in this era. We will likely need to see a tiered system, with schools like Alabama and Oklahoma playing their financial peers with lesser players. It isn't fair to have them competing against well-funded schools in the long term.
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Cody Campbell didn’t say anything about Oklahoma.
I'm sure Alabama and Auburn are a lot like Oklahoma. There are people in Oklahoma like the Loves and Harold Hamm and George Kaiser who support OU. All of them have way more money than Cody Campbell...
But they won't dump their money into things that aren't tax deductible. This far they have stayed out of the NIL game.
Former OU center and now talking head Gabe Ikard is married into the Loves family and they won't even buy him an offensive line at OU.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 8:09 am to Gunga Din
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I'm sure Alabama and Auburn are a lot like Oklahoma. There are people in Oklahoma like the Loves and Harold Hamm and George Kaiser who support OU. All of them have way more money than Cody Campbell... But they won't dump their money into things that aren't tax deductible. This far they have stayed out of the NIL game. Former OU center and now talking head Gabe Ikard is married into the Loves family and they won't even buy him an offensive line at OU.
The point is Cody Campbell was talking about Alabama and Auburn.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 8:27 am to JayAg
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You have to take like 30-40 transfers to be ranked 1st, so if you don’t need transfers, you aren’t ranked. Broken logic that get preached as if it’s better than HS recruiting that makes up most of the rosters.
Wrong. On 247, Texas and Ohio State are ranked 3 and 4 in transfers, and they only have 16 incoming. Indiana is #7 with only 17 transfers. Hell, Notre Dame has the #10 transfer class with only 7 transfers.
On On3 transfer class rankings, which is better, Texas Tech is #1 with 20 transfers, and Indiana and A&M are ranked 2nd and 3rd, both with 20 or fewer incoming transfers. Notre Dame is also #10 here with only seven incoming transfers.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 8:35 am to SEC Doctor
Didn't Bama go as far in the playoffs as TT?
Posted on 1/21/26 at 8:35 am to SEC Doctor
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certain schools that have historically been really good or had a great brand or won national championships in the past won’t anymore. It will be the schools that have the financial resources that will. You’ll start to see Indiana start to show up every year and people will say ‘I’m kind of tired of Indiana’ after a while. You’re just trading one group of one blue bloods for another.”
I just can't possibly fathom how anyone that claims to be a fan of "college football" can be ok with this being the new reality.
Coaching, development, rapport, facilities, history/tradition, academics, campus feel, successful pro players, COACHING, etc.......all the things that actually used to be really imoprtant in making a winning program now don't matter in the slightest since the only thing that actaully does matter is "who can pay the most this season?"
LIke honestly, how is that fun?
Posted on 1/21/26 at 8:37 am to SEC Doctor
Cody Campbell likes the current environment, and is concerned that the advantage that he has in the current Wild West environment might not last. If Congress ever passes the SCORE Act, we might see a little bit of sanity return to the game, but, as long as things are being run by lawsuits, guys like Campbell, who are willing to write NIL checks with no expectation of any tangible return on that investment, can have an outsized influence on the game.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 9:06 am to JayAg
Your fear of Texas Tech is showing again.
Poor AgriCULTure and Mechanical College
Poor AgriCULTure and Mechanical College
Posted on 1/21/26 at 2:53 pm to AwgustaDawg
quote:In the 12 team era Indiana has won a natty, UGa hasn’t won a playoff game
The fact that the Indiana's and TT's and Vandy's of the world think the thing that has always held them back were prohibitions against cheating is why those types of programs will ALWAYS be second tier....they look for excuses instead of fixes. That's cultural and unlikely to change. The window is open.....they better jump through it because the window will slam shut in a couple of years and they will once again be what they have always been.
Enjoy the decline!
Posted on 1/21/26 at 2:56 pm to WG_Dawg
Since I agree with this I will repost hoping for commentary
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I just can't possibly fathom how anyone that claims to be a fan of "college football" can be ok with this being the new reality.
Coaching, development, rapport, facilities, history/tradition, academics, campus feel, successful pro players, COACHING, etc.......all the things that actually used to be really imoprtant in making a winning program now don't matter in the slightest since the only thing that actaully does matter is "who can pay the most this season?"
LIke honestly, how is that fun?
Posted on 1/21/26 at 3:15 pm to 195bc
Why is On3 better? Bobby is biased to Texas schools. He was at 247.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 3:21 pm to JayAg
Bobby is biased to Texas, not Texas schools. Get it right
Posted on 1/21/26 at 3:25 pm to SneezyBeltranIsHere
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We will likely need to see a tiered system, with schools like Alabama and Oklahoma playing their financial peers with lesser players. It isn't fair to have them competing against well-funded schools in the long term.
We will see these teams stop supporting secondary sports to free up money for football. Lots of scholarships in swimming & diving, tennis, etc. about to disappear.
Rodo
Posted on 1/21/26 at 3:57 pm to captdalton
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I just checked. Yep, Texas Tech still has zero CFP wins. Ever.
To be more precise, Texas Tech still has zero points scored in CFP games - just like all the teams that have never made the CFP.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 4:18 pm to captdalton
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I just checked. Yep, Texas Tech still has zero CFP wins. Ever.
Just think if Tech would have been cheating all those year like Bama with bryant and saban????
Tech would probably have at least 10 National Championship's.
Fuggin bama cheaters who had a coach that as soon as everyone could pay players he quit and said NIL was/is ruining college sports.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 4:22 pm to WG_Dawg
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LIke honestly, how is that fun?
Should we just go back to a handful of schools cheating like it was prior to NIL?
It's hilarious all the schools that cheated before NIL are the ones that claim NIL is ruining college athletics.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 4:37 pm to 14&Counting
quote:Watching these local judges, I wouldn't count on it
I think what is going to happen is there is going to be some legislation introduced that keeps the playing field leveled to ensure completion.
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