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re: Coaches are taking pay cuts and calling it donations to NIL

Posted on 12/16/24 at 11:48 am to
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
10199 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 11:48 am to
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When Hugh Freeze is making $6.7 million a year and a $20m buyout to have losing seasons something is fricked up.


I agree. If it's player pay that will make boosters stop throwing so much money behind bad in the form of exorbitant coach salaries and buyouts so be it.
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
10199 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 11:49 am to
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The exchange of wealth will look like the NFL by the time it is said and done. You'll have most of your starters making more money than their head coach. Try telling a 17-22 year old what to do when his paycheck is bigger than yours. Good luck with that college coaches...


This is the dynamic in all sports that I can think of and players are still taking orders and instruction from coaches. I don't know what you're looking at.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
46376 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 11:51 am to
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I don't think anyone is fooled.


not a one


Posted by NWLA_Bama
Member since Aug 2024
554 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 11:53 am to
That has yet to exist on the college level. Grown men are mature enough to make more than their coach and allow them to coach them hard. Try doing that to a kid. You're naive if you don't think there will be issues that root from this dynamic.
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
10199 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 11:56 am to
They aren't kids. They are young adults who are treated as adults in every facet of society. Also, they are pro athletes.
Posted by NWLA_Bama
Member since Aug 2024
554 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 12:58 pm to
You obviously haven't coached athletes in this age range in the past 20 years. You sound clueless...
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61358 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 1:03 pm to
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The exchange of wealth will look like the NFL by the time it is said and done. You'll have most of your starters making more money than their head coach. Try telling a 17-22 year old what to do when his paycheck is bigger than yours. Good luck with that college coaches...


Especially if they don't have contracts and can just transfer whenever they want
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30818 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 1:17 pm to
I think it's silly that coaches are paying for these things.

But if players don't care about being developed and just want to go to the highest bidder, then the value of coaches who develop talent and do more than play call etc will certainly diminish.

People talk about the high cost of coaches,and that's because of what they provided. Which was a benefit to the players even though some ignorant people pretend otherwise. That was $10 million coach who was teaching those 85-125 kids the game, life and so on in addition to managing all the rest.

Now you spend 2 years developing a kid and suddenly he transfers to the highest bidder once he's developed some skills. All the money spent to do so ends up wasted.

And many of the better players don't really want to be developed at all, or don't want to put in the work. And that's the difference between being a talented player and being an elite player.

It doesn't seem sustainable long term.
Posted by Vol92
Member since Mar 2009
669 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 1:47 pm to
This just sounds like boomer nonsense to me

The vast majority of coaches have been obscenely overpaid. The players were being taken advantage of financially, to the benefit of coaches salaries and sports that lose money for the athletic department
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30818 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 1:55 pm to
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This just sounds like boomer nonsense to me

The vast majority of coaches have been obscenely overpaid. The players were being taken advantage of financially, to the benefit of coaches salaries and sports that lose money for the athletic department


Because you are stupid and have likely never had a job with high levels of responsibilities including having your entire life and everything you say and do be in the public eye.

You probably think every job is like working at McDonalds and thus you ignorantly equate that level of duty and responsibility to guys making $10 million a year.

Even further, your ignorance then has you focus only on the 4 hours on Saturday in which you watch the players play with the coaches on the sideline to come this conclusion that the players are the only ones doing the work and that they are being taken advantage of - despite it being an opportunity the majority of people would love to have. We have kids going into major amounts of debts for a fraction of the benefits.

You don't see or account for all the extra hours the coaches put in. You have no idea the difficulties of managing people, and so on.

The worse part is your ignorance is widespread among many and that's why we are getting a fricked up system as a result.

In many cases, the coaches themselves are former players who had to spend decades perfecting their craft. And yet you judge them based on their performance to other coaches to say they are overpaid.

Congrats. You embody every bit of ignorance and entitlement I have come to expect from the most recent generations.

PS: I'm Gen X. You can tell because I don't give a frick about your feelings.
Posted by terriblegreen
Souf Badden Rewage
Member since Aug 2011
11292 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 1:57 pm to
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Coaching salaries had to come back to earth


Buyouts need to come back to earth.
Posted by MtVernon
Member since Jul 2024
6775 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 1:58 pm to
Nice projection melt. 9.5/10
Posted by MtVernon
Member since Jul 2024
6775 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 1:58 pm to
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Buyouts need to come back to earth.


People need to come back to earth.
Posted by Vol92
Member since Mar 2009
669 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 1:59 pm to
I learned my lesson with your first post

Not reading that nonsense. I imagine when you walk away from people, you can hear “that guy sure likes to hear himself talk” a lot

Likely not one iota of self awareness about it either
Posted by Soonerd78
Member since Sep 2024
1628 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 2:00 pm to
You don’t think coaches weren’t paying kids out of their pocket ? It’s been happening for years .
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30818 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 2:26 pm to
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Buyouts need to come back to earth.


The ones that are dumb are usually because of the buyouts.

The overall average yearly pay probably isn't all that much higher if at all if you adjusted for inflation.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
31168 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 2:49 pm to
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When Hugh Freeze is making $6.7 million a year and a $20m buyout to have losing seasons
Brother Hugh gets a $275,000 retention bonus in January carrying him to $7mm/yr.

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something is fricked up
Indeed
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
31168 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 2:54 pm to
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That has yet to exist on the college level. Grown men are mature enough to make more than their coach and allow them to coach them hard. Try doing that to a kid.
I believe we're already seeing what happens, there are 6,034 players in the current portal and 2,872 of them are starters.
Posted by Buster83
Member since Aug 2021
4678 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:12 pm to
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Coaches are taking pay cuts and calling it donations to NIL


You got a link or just making shite up?
Posted by DingLeeBerry
Member since Oct 2014
11498 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:20 pm to
Are these funds that they are generously “donating” to tax deductible?
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