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re: CMR screwed up his clock management? Huh?

Posted on 12/3/12 at 10:00 am to
Posted by genro
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Posted on 12/3/12 at 10:00 am to
quote:

he also should have spiked earlier in the drive and he didnt. he cost his teams quite a few seconds.

Umm... when?
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
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Posted on 12/3/12 at 10:00 am to
earlier in the drive. i said that already.
Posted by genro
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Posted on 12/3/12 at 10:01 am to
After which play, specifically?
Posted by bbap
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Posted on 12/3/12 at 10:01 am to
i dont remember every play on the final drive off memory. after a first down obviously. about all i remember.
This post was edited on 12/3/12 at 10:02 am
Posted by NashBamaFan
Nashville
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Posted on 12/3/12 at 10:06 am to
Agree with the OP. If it worked without clocking it, Richt is a genius. He didn't let Saban counter on D and won the game. Good call, bad result. Imo
Posted by sarc
Member since Mar 2011
9997 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 10:10 am to
Should've spiked it IMO. I understand the "don't let the defense get organized" arguement, but you always take 3 shots into the endzone over 2 shots.

quote:

The decision to keep going while you're hot and not clock it didn't pan out, but if the exact same play had happened after a spike, it would've been the same result. So don't put it on Richt


I disagree. If they had spiked it, the ill-fated play would've started at 0:14 instead of 0:09. That 5 seconds would've likely allowed UGA to spike it again and get off 1 more play.

But I'm not complaining.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 12/3/12 at 10:11 am to
they also didnt spike it earlier after a first down and wasted close to 8-10 seconds.

i bet he wished he had those seconds back.
This post was edited on 12/3/12 at 10:12 am
Posted by JStanDawgFan
Evans, Ga
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 12/3/12 at 10:15 am to
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genro



I agree completely with the original post.

It is amazing to me that people forget that going into the game, every person knew the way to beat Bama was to run uptempo. A&M won their game against Bama by not letting the Defense get substituted and gassing them in the forth quarter by trying to keep up. Richt game planned this factor perfectly on the last drive, but somehow he is now an idiot for doing exactly what everyone said he needed to do to beat Bama. Hindsight is 20/20, message board coaches all know what is best for a losing team, and the world keeps on spinning.
This post was edited on 12/3/12 at 10:24 am
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 12/3/12 at 10:19 am to
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genro

we may have disagreed some in the past but by god man i have read few things i agree more with. and i'm the resident negaricht. i agree wholeheartedly. the call was risky but made sense, conley did what any kid would do, and alabama was more than capable of stopping us and showed that.

alabama won this one, fair and square, and not because of richt's "gaffe"
This post was edited on 12/3/12 at 10:19 am
Posted by dallasga6
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 12/3/12 at 10:30 am to
Rather than appreciating a calculated risk for what it is, most people conclude, it didn't work, and therefore was a bad decision...

The outcome itself cannot be the correct judge of the call. But aggressive play calls will always be billed as either brilliant or a blunder based on the outcome. What do you think everyone would be saying about the decision had Georgia scored on that play?
This post was edited on 12/3/12 at 10:31 am
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
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Posted on 12/3/12 at 10:33 am to
he fricked up by not spiking it. why can't people admit that?
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 12/3/12 at 10:35 am to
exactly. i dislike the play call more than the call to keep throwing. i know they explained it a 100x in the press conference or w/e but i still think that was the biggest mistake
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96953 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 10:36 am to
if he spikes the ball like he is suppose to he has 3 throws into the endzone instead of two.

or he has time to spike again after the tip/catch instead of the game ending.

so yeah he fricked up.
Posted by 6nmylifetime
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/3/12 at 10:37 am to
quote:

Wasn't a fade route. It was a back shoulder. TE should not have been angled more upfield than he was. Again, richt put his own team in panic mode. He paid the price for doing so.



I guess no one saw Richts comments after the game. The OP is spot on on everything. It was a fade that happened to be tipped. The underneath receiver was there by design as a decoy. Had UGA spiked the ball they would have only gotten off 2 more shots at the end zone not 3, and probably would have ran the same play regardless. Clock management didnt beat UGA. A tipped pass did.

As for Saban at the end of the half. He admitted he screwed up. He also explained what caused him to mess up. He wanted a quick snap on first down for BAMA but UGA substituted and the ref held the snap until UGA was set as he was supposed to. Saban wasn't blaming the ref, he blamed himself but did say that was what cost him the time.

A lot of LSU fans are using Richt as self assurance that their coach isnt the only boob when it comes to clock management. What they don't want to admit is that Saban ran the same 3 man rush/drop coverage D against UGA that he did against LSU. Difference was UGA went 80+ yrds in 1:08 whereas LSU went 5 with a QB hurry and a sack in :51.
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 12/3/12 at 10:38 am to
if you want to look at it myopically and not consider what had happened the entire drive, then sure, you're absolutely right, and i hope you can help beat out the incumbent richt as our next head coach
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 10:41 am to
quote:

A lot of LSU fans are using Richt as self assurance that their coach isnt the only boob when it comes to clock management.


this has nothing to do with LSUs coach. LSU hasn't had a clock management issue since they got rid of Crowton. coincedence?? i think not.

You spike the ball, regroup your offense, and call your best play. and you get 2, maybe 3 shots. you don't rush into a play at that point

and since you brought up Les Miles....if Miles had done that bullshite this entire board would be going nuts on LSU fans right now.
This post was edited on 12/3/12 at 10:44 am
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96953 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 10:43 am to
he should have spiked earlier in the drive as well. it doesnt take a genius to see it.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 10:44 am to
quote:

he should have spiked earlier in the drive as well. it doesnt take a genius to see it.


can you imagine this board had Miles done that stupid shite?
Posted by MetryTyger
Metro NOLA, LA
Member since Jan 2004
15659 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 10:45 am to
quote:

genro
CMR screwed up his clock management? Huh?


His team's clock management was far better than most you see in that situation, easily.





Cool. So with 15 seconds left and a chance to spike the ball and get two, maybe three passes to the end zone would have been wrong?
This post was edited on 12/3/12 at 10:46 am
Posted by Master of Sinanju
Member since Feb 2012
12090 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 10:47 am to
It wasn't a brain fart, like many think. It was a conscious decision to attack the reeling defense. Had it worked, we would be admiring Richt's aggressiveness. I disagree with the decision, but respect the gamble.
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