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re: Chizik & NCAA Cleared Academics & ESPN- Auburn: Report was "CLEARLY FLAWED"
Posted on 4/22/13 at 10:43 pm to NYCAuburn
Posted on 4/22/13 at 10:43 pm to NYCAuburn
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How did auburn change their argument in the cam situation?
First they trotted Cam and his father into a professional photo shoot at AU and discussed his amazing family that he was so close to.
Then, before the Georgia game AU issued a no comment blanket.
A bit later Cam suddenly wasn't close to his amazing Dad and he "didn't know" where he was going to play football hinged on his Dad's pocketbooks.
The same Dad whose words wouldn't carry weight because they weren't super close. :what?:
Presto chango.
Cam's Dad was 'banned'a from attending his sons game in Arizona but he went anyway.
Go ahead and say that AU did nothing wrong.
This post was edited on 4/22/13 at 10:45 pm
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Posted on 4/22/13 at 10:47 pm to MagicCityBlazer
So where is the story change by auburn again?
You are very clever at side stepping aren't you? You rascal you. Please tell me more. I just popped some more popkern. Do you have any charts?
You are very clever at side stepping aren't you? You rascal you. Please tell me more. I just popped some more popkern. Do you have any charts?
Posted on 4/22/13 at 10:50 pm to NYCAuburn
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You are very clever at side stepping aren't you?
I still don't see you responding to counter my argument except the occasional chirps of 'are you a lawyer?'
And
'what about other situations that i won't admit were different '
Seems pretty ironic.
This post was edited on 4/22/13 at 10:51 pm
Posted on 4/22/13 at 10:51 pm to NYCAuburn
? Do you Au fans believe that Cam really did not know about the MSU cash offer his father was in negotiations with the Bond/Bell(don't remember which one or if it was both) guy?
Posted on 4/22/13 at 10:53 pm to MagicCityBlazer
Well since I stepped into the thread and asked one simple question, you have responded by changing the subject. That's why I said that.
Ill ask an equal question then, why didn't alabama sue clay Travis or sports by brooks?
I trust you since you have all this legal knowledge. Btw, I need a probate lawyer for some family finance stuff, do you practice probate or something else.
Ill ask an equal question then, why didn't alabama sue clay Travis or sports by brooks?
I trust you since you have all this legal knowledge. Btw, I need a probate lawyer for some family finance stuff, do you practice probate or something else.
Posted on 4/22/13 at 10:55 pm to spacewrangler
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? Do you Au fans believe that Cam really did not know about the MSU cash offer his father was in negotiations with the Bond/Bell(don't remember which one or if it was both) guy?
Pfft, we are on to why schools won't sue journalist for writing articles accusing them of NCAA improprieties. Why didn't they sue? It's because they were afraid to testify, wasn't it?
Please keep up.
This post was edited on 4/22/13 at 10:56 pm
Posted on 4/22/13 at 10:56 pm to spacewrangler
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? Do you Au fans believe that Cam really did not know about the MSU cash offer his father was in negotiations with the Bond/Bell(don't remember which one or if it was both) guy?
Did he have an offer from MSU for cash? Seems MSU should get probation and are dirty. I believe his dad had a conversation.
If your dad was cheating on your mom, would the kids know? That seems to be your argument, that the kids must know.
This post was edited on 4/22/13 at 10:58 pm
Posted on 4/22/13 at 11:01 pm to NYCAuburn
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you have responded by changing the subject.
I won't apologize that you can't defend auburn's name from its many allegations.
I won't apologize for not responding in the way you expected.
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Ill ask an equal question then, why didn't alabama sue clay Travis or sports by brooks?
I believe your argument in defense of Auburn is so poor thay you must change the subject.
How absurd to be teased about changing subjects when you are trying to not answer direct statements and instead respond on alternate questions.
I would refer you to a firm but you would still have changed the subject.
Posted on 4/22/13 at 11:05 pm to MagicCityBlazer
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They really hate it when you remind them that Auburn changed its story a few times during the cam saga.
When did that happen?
That never happened.
Posted on 4/22/13 at 11:07 pm to MagicCityBlazer
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& NCAA Cleared Academics & ESPN- Auburn: Report was "CLEARLY FLAWED"
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you have responded by changing the subject.
I won't apologize that you can't defend auburn's name from its many allegations.
I won't apologize for not responding in the way you expected.
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Ill ask an equal question then, why didn't alabama sue clay Travis or sports by brooks?
I believe your argument in defense of Auburn is so poor thay you must change the subject.
How absurd to be teased about changing subjects when you are trying to not answer direct statements and instead respond on alternate questions.
I would refer you to a firm but you would still have changed the subject.
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I just wanted to copy and paste this for my enjoyment latter. You just wrote that, let it sit and marinate for a bit.
So surely since you are a legal expert and all, you would tell me why wouldn't alabama sue a writer for such an article in which it accuses a school of committing NCAA improprieties?
Posted on 4/22/13 at 11:08 pm to MagicCityBlazer
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How absurd to be teased about changing subjects when you are trying to not answer direct statements and instead respond on alternate questions.
I believe his intent is to direct a very similar question to you to show that if answering in the negative to your question insinuates Auburn's guilt, then a simple logical jump will show that other institutions that would answer in the negative to an almost identical question are also assumed to be guilty.
Therefore, if you want to categorize one institution as guilty because of a failure to file suit against an aggressor, you must apply the same level of scrutiny to every university that has found itself in a similar situation.
Are you willing to do that?
This post was edited on 4/22/13 at 11:18 pm
Posted on 4/22/13 at 11:08 pm to Ross
Ross keep up here.
Eta, now you are up to speed.
Eta, now you are up to speed.
This post was edited on 4/22/13 at 11:10 pm
Posted on 4/22/13 at 11:12 pm to MagicCityBlazer
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How absurd to be teased about changing subjects when you are trying to not answer direct statements and instead respond on alternate questions.
I guess I will respond to this now.
The questions that I am not answering, those would be the questions you posed, when you didn't answer my question? Would those be the question you are referring to?
Posted on 4/22/13 at 11:19 pm to NYCAuburn
I miss the days of PAAAWWWL and when
he could just bottle lightning in a clear day with cam.
What auburn people should understand is that cam is the Kobayashi maru.
In other words you cannot win.
People know that cam's story is hard to understand.
Why respond to people about it?
he could just bottle lightning in a clear day with cam.
What auburn people should understand is that cam is the Kobayashi maru.
In other words you cannot win.
People know that cam's story is hard to understand.
Why respond to people about it?
Posted on 4/22/13 at 11:26 pm to MagicCityBlazer
So in other words, you are full of shite. Just admit it and move on. You might not kick your dog tomorrow when you let the majority of that pea between those dumbo esque ears just let go of Auburn.
And yet again you side stepped the original question and even the dumbed down version of the original question.
And yet again you side stepped the original question and even the dumbed down version of the original question.
Posted on 4/22/13 at 11:38 pm to MagicCityBlazer
Blazer, all I know is that Miss. St. offered his daddy money and that made him ineligible at any school. scam not knowing doesn't matter. Check the rules, any parent or guardian soliciting money = ineligible. It doesn't say unless the student athlete didn't know.
Posted on 4/22/13 at 11:43 pm to BIG DADDY 73
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Blazer, all I know is that Miss. St. offered his daddy money and that made him ineligible at any school. scam not knowing doesn't matter. Check the rules, any parent or guardian soliciting money = ineligible. It doesn't say unless the student athlete didn't know.
How does this even get twisted into MSU making "offers" when we were the ones that turned it in and leaked the story? Would be pretty frickin stupid if we were dirty don't you think?
MSU didn't offer Cam anything. Cecil had his hand out -- and MSU turned him in for it. That's all there is to the story as far as MSU is concerned.
This post was edited on 4/22/13 at 11:45 pm
Posted on 4/22/13 at 11:45 pm to BIG DADDY 73
Do you really, as a bama fan, want to hang your hat on that rule?
Posted on 4/22/13 at 11:46 pm to BIG DADDY 73
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any parent or guardian soliciting money = ineligible.
Isn't that the rule that was implemented after the Cam Saga? The loop hole they tried to close?
If so you can't implement that retroactively, right?
Posted on 4/22/13 at 11:47 pm to engie
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MSU didn't offer Cam anything. Cecil had his hand out -- and MSU turned him in for it.
That "had his hand out" (asking for money or shopping him around" is what made him ineligible.
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