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re: Chips are down: Alabama edition

Posted on 8/4/26 at 5:23 pm to
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
73537 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 5:23 pm to
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And its amazing how you guys are knocking down Saban after all the titles and enjoyment he gave you as fans over his tenure.


No one is knocking Saban. It’s just the truth of the matter. He was 72 years old. He was putting more into the program in those last few years than he could afford. The assistants and coordinators were no where near the caliber he employed earlier at Alabama. It showed up in development.

And as much as Saban tried to help with the transition, Alabama got hit with two long portal windows that don’t even exist anymore. The depth got undermined. We lost a ton of younger guys.

DeBoer has rebuilt the roster but he’s got to stop losing to teams he shouldn’t and being non competitive in some games. Despite some depth issues in 2024 and 2025, he has fielded a team more talented than most all of his competition.

All that to say, DeBoer inherited a great situation but it’s not the perfect situation everyone just assumes.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
34337 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 5:24 pm to
Your lack of awareness is mind blowing.

BV rebuilt program and made playoffs last year

Meanwhile Riley has never made the playoffs at USC.

Are you still complaining about Saban and pimping DeBoer?
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
128161 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 5:28 pm to
No lies detected.

Glad Texas A&M beat us like a rented mule in Baton Rouge so we could fire that yankee clown.
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 8/4/26 at 8:22 pm to
quote:

Wolfhound45

Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
128161 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 8:24 pm to
Posted by paperwasp
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31606 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 8:24 pm to
How you been, man?
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
128161 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 8:26 pm to
Doing well brother. Just chilling.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
17322 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 8:28 pm to
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desperate hoping by fans of other schools that Bama will crater




I want Bama to lose 3/4 every season and keep extending DeBoer. A crash would mean a firing and could mean the next Bear/Saban.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
17322 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 8:30 pm to
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Saban was 19–8




What?
Posted by theballguy
HSV (Dealing only in satire)
Member since Oct 2011
42617 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 10:15 pm to
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Why does Kalen DeBoer get so much hate??


It's never for losing to good teams but for losing to shitty and mid teams. A good coach doesn't lose to the midlings or play down to them.
Posted by Dawgs2122
Member since Dec 2024
3163 posts
Posted on 8/5/26 at 10:21 am to
Yes. I often post aout the Vols as well. You guys had an incredible run. But like all things, it has come to an end. 28-7
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
20080 posts
Posted on 8/5/26 at 1:50 pm to
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But I think the program and players were fine and Saban just got tired of putting in the extra hours, no different than Bob at OU.


The program and the players were not fine in 2023. I think that was probably Saban's best coaching job. He had shite for assistants by the end of his career. That was the major issue. That's what contributed to misses in recruiting and lack of player development.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
20080 posts
Posted on 8/5/26 at 1:56 pm to
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What?


7-6
12-2

Think about what that poster said...
Posted by GeauxLaneTrain
Coastal Empire
Member since Aug 2026
661 posts
Posted on 8/5/26 at 1:56 pm to
It isn't hate. He became the Alabama HC and all of a sudden was a top 5 coach? Give me a break. He had one very successful season as a P5 HC with the playoff run. So did Sonny Dykes....


Don't believe me? Look at coaching rankings from 2023 versus 2024 and you'll see him shoot up because he became Bama's HC.

I'll tell you one thing. I would be very concerned as a Bama fan knowing they have worse championship odds in DeBoer's third year than they did in year 1 and year 2 under DeBoer.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
20080 posts
Posted on 8/5/26 at 2:01 pm to
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Don't believe me? Look at coaching rankings from 2023 versus 2024 and you'll see him shoot up because he became Bama's HC.



LINK

He didn't shoot up because he was Bama's coach. He shot up because he followed up an 11-2 season with a title game appearance. He also shot up from 2022 to 2023
Posted by GeauxLaneTrain
Coastal Empire
Member since Aug 2026
661 posts
Posted on 8/5/26 at 2:12 pm to
So why wasn't Sonny Dykes suddenly a top 5 coach?

I'll ask it a different way, do you really think he would have been ranked as high if he stayed at Washington?
This post was edited on 8/5/26 at 2:17 pm
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
26886 posts
Posted on 8/5/26 at 3:03 pm to
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So why wasn't Sonny Dykes suddenly a top 5 coach?


Because he only had real success one season, making the playoffs in 2022 despite many saying there were better, more deserving teams. They lost to Georgia 65-7. That left an impression. He followed that up by going 5-7 the next season. That is why.

quote:

I'll ask it a different way, do you really think he would have been ranked as high if he stayed at Washington?


If he had continued having the success he did his first two years absolutely.

He has only been a p4 coach for the last 4 seasons.

Here is a list of active coaches who have made the CFP at least twice in the past four seasons.

Kirby Smart
Curt Cignetti
Ryan Day
Steve Sarkisian
Dan Lanning
Kalen Deboer

That list looks remarkably similar to most of the “best current coaches” lists.




This post was edited on 8/5/26 at 3:09 pm
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
20080 posts
Posted on 8/5/26 at 3:09 pm to
quote:

So why wasn't Sonny Dykes suddenly a top 5 coach?


LINK

Dykes was ranked 11 after his one good year at TCU and reaching the playoff finals. His team was embarrassed in that game. He followed that up with a 5-7 season or maybe he would be ranked in the top 5. DeBoer was ranked 23 after having what would be his breakout year at UW. He followed that season by going to the playoff finals and actually competing.

quote:

I'll ask it a different way, do you really think he would have been ranked as high if he stayed at Washington?


Would he have followed his championship game appearance with a 5-7 season? If so, I doubt he would be ranked top 5.

DeBoer's track record isn't as long, but his winning percentage is significantly higher than Dykes's.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
26886 posts
Posted on 8/5/26 at 3:12 pm to
I have a question for you. When a LSU fan makes a ridiculous or just flat factually incorrect statement here it inevitably gets upvoted. Do those come from different LSU fans, or just your other alters?
Posted by Red Eagle
Member since Aug 2026
137 posts
Posted on 8/5/26 at 3:15 pm to
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The average amount per athlete for that infraction was $199 over three years
No one believes this. School books costs over 200 a piece in 2006
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