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re: Chips are down: Alabama edition

Posted on 8/4/26 at 1:48 pm to
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 8/4/26 at 1:48 pm to
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just didn't have the pop I expected
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"Joyless murderball" was a nickname given to Saban’s Alabama teams of the 2010s due to their unrelenting, suffocating nature

You could argue 2012 was the peak.
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Posted by Night Vision
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Posted on 8/4/26 at 1:53 pm to
He called the dogs off many times in 2012, especially against the barn. We could have scored 75 pts that day.
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 8/4/26 at 2:01 pm to
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especially against the barn. We could have scored 75

I was at that game, and tailgated beforehand with an Auburn fan who was attending his first Iron Bowl, ever.

I saw him at one point on the big screen with his hands on his head.

Still think about that sometimes.

Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 8/4/26 at 2:05 pm to
The A&M game that year was the miraculous "Johnny F*cking Football" game that won Manziel the Heisman, BTW.
Posted by RolltidePA
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Posted on 8/4/26 at 2:07 pm to
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2. BeBoer took over a great team and program who had one of the best runs in CFB under Saban. He had benefit of instant NIL/other transfers.


False. He took over a team with significant issues at offensive and defensive line. He also had the detriment of NIL in that 26 players left after Saban retired, including a Freshman All-American and Ohio State's current starting QB. There was a talent drain that created a significant team downgrade.
This post was edited on 8/4/26 at 2:08 pm
Posted by RolltidePA
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Posted on 8/4/26 at 2:20 pm to
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The comparison is what Saban left for DeBoer compared to what Shula left Saban.


The good deal of the 2009 championship team was recruited by Shula including guys like Rolando McClain, Greg McElroy, Javier Arenas. Other guys like Kareem Jackson and Marquise Maze were on their way but not yet signed when Shula was fired. Around 14 of the starters on the '09 team were from the Shula era. Now, Saban brought in some elite talent to fill out that team, and was a much better coach, but there wasn't a huge gap between the talent that both inherited, especially wit the guys that left when Saban retired.
This post was edited on 8/4/26 at 2:21 pm
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 8/4/26 at 2:24 pm to
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What conclusions might you draw from this information?
That Kalen DeBoer is a mediocre coach?
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 8/4/26 at 2:29 pm to
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Wolfhound45



Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 8/4/26 at 2:35 pm to
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paperwasp
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 8/4/26 at 2:45 pm to
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Wolfhound45

Posted by Hback
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Posted on 8/4/26 at 2:55 pm to

Wolf!

Posted by Dawgs2122
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Posted on 8/4/26 at 3:11 pm to
-3 yards though
Posted by Dawgs2122
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Posted on 8/4/26 at 3:12 pm to
DEY WUZ INJURED
Posted by Crimson Wraith
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Posted on 8/4/26 at 3:17 pm to
You ever post about anything other than Daddy BAMA?
Posted by T1gerNate
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Posted on 8/4/26 at 3:20 pm to
It's because Alabama is supposed to be bad arse, smash mouth football and Kaitlyn Da Bore puts out soft, boring teams.
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