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re: CFP - the hatchet that killed the golden goose
Posted on 12/29/19 at 8:59 am to TailbackU
Posted on 12/29/19 at 8:59 am to TailbackU
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You really have no idea how systems work, do you
actually I do, its you that don't...
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My speculation is two-fold...one, that it centralized the championship which took away the uniqueness of the sport and took the polls out of it. A BYU '84, GT '90, UW'91 would never happen now
You want a repeat of BYU with their shitty arse 1984 schedule against weak teams to be rewarded a NC in the Holiday Bowl over a shitty arse 6-6 Michigan team...you want to go back to those days is exactly what you are crying for...
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Posted on 12/29/19 at 9:00 am to TailbackU
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Gone are the days of national interest. College football is a regional draw now.
I believe it’s just the opposite. Never has it been more on a national level. In the old SWC days, we played to win the SWC in order to earn a trip to the Cotton Bowl. Things were looked at from a regional prospective in how we lined up with teams regionally. Now, it’s all about the playoffs and how teams stack up nationally.
Posted on 12/29/19 at 9:01 am to LSURulzSEC
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.you want to go back to those days is exactly what you are crying for...
I'm not "crying" for anything, frickface, I'm making a point that college football is no longer a national sport. It is a regional sport.
Posted on 12/29/19 at 9:04 am to Crowknowsbest
quote:The proliferation of bowl games has devalued the prestige of playing in a bowl. There are so many bowl games that the eligibility requirements had to be loosened up so teams with non-winning records could participate. That has killed the prestige of non-playoff bowls more than anything else. There were 10 bowl games in 1971, 20 in 1997 and 40 in 2006. CFP or not, 40 bowl games adds up to nothing more than a wild card game that is added to the end of a team's season if it is able to at least post a .500 record.
It’s the same phenomenon that’s killing the non-playoff bowls,
Posted on 12/29/19 at 9:07 am to el gato
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The proliferation of bowl games has devalued the prestige of playing in a bowl.
The mere existence of the Bahamas Bowl does not devalue the Sugar Bowl. They are basically unrelated. The teams seeking those spots are entirely different.
The existence of the playoff does devalue the Sugar Bowl.
Posted on 12/29/19 at 9:14 am to TailbackU
quote:No, you're crying, and a fricking idiot.
I'm not "crying" for anything,
Posted on 12/29/19 at 9:16 am to TailbackU
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I'm not "crying" for anything, frickface, I'm making a point that college football is no longer a national sport. It is a regional sport.
Actually you are...and the game is not regional and its not even close to being regional any longer with the amount of exposure there is every week...
back in the day it was rare players left their region to cross the country to play for schools far from home...sure you would get a few big names going to power house schools, but now they go in a heartbeat, especially if you have far better facilities than the ones at home...
when it comes to the networks, just going back to the early 90s the only national exposure you got was if your game was picked up by CBS, ABC or ESPN and outside of ESPN giving scores to all the games the only coverage you got was local...
Now all the P5 schools as well as many G5 schools are getting national exposure each week and their games are televised on the plethora of cable channels or streamed online to national audiences...
Sorry, if you think college football is a regional sport you are delusional...
Posted on 12/29/19 at 9:21 am to TailbackU
In the long run, the CFP might be what saves college football though. Yes, in its current 4 team format it highlights the regional discrepancies but once expanded to 16 or 32 teams it will reinvigorate hope and give more fans a reason to care again. (I'm not a fan of expansion past 8 but I know it's a foregone conclusion we'll eventually get there.)
College basketball is dying and the only reason its death has been somewhat slowed is the existence of the 64+ team field and the excitement that generates at the end of the season.
College basketball is dying and the only reason its death has been somewhat slowed is the existence of the 64+ team field and the excitement that generates at the end of the season.
Posted on 12/29/19 at 9:22 am to TailbackU
The national championship was the hatchet. CFP just sharpened it.
There's no scenario where winning the Rose Bowl should be a disappointment for Michigan, but if the Bowl isn't one of the CFP that year, or if they win the playoff game and lose the Natty, Michigan fans will be at least a little disappointed. This is wrong and bad for the sport. Regular season should matter. Bowler should matter.
There's no scenario where winning the Rose Bowl should be a disappointment for Michigan, but if the Bowl isn't one of the CFP that year, or if they win the playoff game and lose the Natty, Michigan fans will be at least a little disappointed. This is wrong and bad for the sport. Regular season should matter. Bowler should matter.
Posted on 12/29/19 at 9:23 am to LSURulzSEC
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Sorry, if you think college football is a regional sport
Like it or not, when all the power and interest is concentrated in a particular region, it's a regional sport. That's what "regional" means.
Posted on 12/29/19 at 9:25 am to timdonaghyswhistle
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but once expanded to 16 or 32 teams it will reinvigorate hope and give more fans a reason to care again
the most it needs to be is 6...you really want teams with 3-4 losses are more in the playoffs?
The P5 needs no more than 6 team playoff and the G5 teams need their own National championship playoff for their conferences to give them something to play for besides a bowl game...
Posted on 12/29/19 at 9:26 am to LSURulzSEC
I said in my post that 8 is the most that makes sense to me, but I know dollar signs will win the day.
Posted on 12/29/19 at 9:27 am to TailbackU
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Like it or not, when all the power and interest is concentrated in a particular region, it's a regional sport. That's what "regional" means.
like I said, if you think its a regional sport you are delusional...
This post was edited on 12/29/19 at 9:34 am
Posted on 12/29/19 at 9:27 am to TailbackU
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Like it or not, when all the power and interest is concentrated in a particular region, it's a regional sport. That's what "regional" means.
Well then it’s, at a minimum, a two region sport. Seeing as the Midwest has plenty of interest and power.
Posted on 12/29/19 at 9:42 am to TailbackU
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Gone are the days of national interest. College football is a regional draw now.
What? Were you even around during the 70's,80's and 90's?
Talk about a regional sport.
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Clemson and LSU are the best 2 teams and there isn't a team on the horizon in another part of the country that will compete in the coming years
Where the Hell was Clemson 10 years ago? How bout LSU the last 5 years before Burrow? Good God dude,stop your whining.
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The sport is dying
Compared to what other sports?NFL?NBA?NCAA reg season basketball? MLB? CFB has arguably never been more popular THANKS to the CFP.
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The sport was unique among sport with the bowl and the polls but we had to kill it and make it like every other sport
Every other sport? CFB still has the most unique reg season of any popular college or pro sport.
You REALLY wanna go back to the old days of polls and curropt bowl committees competing and bribing teams? Screw that.
Posted on 12/29/19 at 9:49 am to SCLibertarian
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Bowls used to mean something.
In the long history of college football bowls were meaningless and simply exhibition games to show-off a few good teams. The NC in my undergraduate days was decided BEFORE the bowl games.
Posted on 12/29/19 at 9:54 am to TailbackU
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here isn't a team on the horizon in another part of the country that will compete in the coming years.
Posted on 12/29/19 at 9:57 am to weremoose
The bowl system is dying. No one gives a damn about a bowl game if it’s not in the playoffs.
Probably should do away with bowls and go to a 16 team playoff.
Probably should do away with bowls and go to a 16 team playoff.
Posted on 12/29/19 at 9:59 am to TailbackU
Seems to me it has proven and illuminated the fact that the best college football in the country is played in the southeastern United States. That’s not my problem.
Posted on 12/29/19 at 10:02 am to tigerfan4120
Osu ain’t goin nowhere. Tney lost but they field teams that can play w anyone.
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