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CFP - the hatchet that killed the golden goose
Posted on 12/29/19 at 7:52 am
Posted on 12/29/19 at 7:52 am
Gone are the days of national interest. College football is a regional draw now. Clemson and LSU are the best 2 teams and there isn't a team on the horizon in another part of the country that will compete in the coming years. PAC12,Big12,B1G,are an afterthought save for tOSU and OU. The best thing that could happen to the sport is that a Texas, Oregon, Washington, USC, Notre Dame, PennSt, win a natty. The sport is dying and we are the last part of the country to feel it because we are the beneficiary of the greed.
The sport was unique among sport with the bowl and the polls but we had to kill it and make it like every other sport. The only difference is that its NOT like other playoff sports. Win the NFL or the NBA and you get the last draft pick. Win the CFP and you get you get a disproportionate number of first rounders.
The sport was unique among sport with the bowl and the polls but we had to kill it and make it like every other sport. The only difference is that its NOT like other playoff sports. Win the NFL or the NBA and you get the last draft pick. Win the CFP and you get you get a disproportionate number of first rounders.
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Posted on 12/29/19 at 7:57 am to TailbackU
Dumb take, it’s shown that the Southern football teams are unequivocally better. The west coast and miswest teams can either step up or fade into irrelevance - that’s up to them.
Urban Meyer showed that a Big 10 team can compete but now OSU is left with a wannabe who won’t be able to recruit like Meyer. USC would definitely compete if they got their shite together.
Urban Meyer showed that a Big 10 team can compete but now OSU is left with a wannabe who won’t be able to recruit like Meyer. USC would definitely compete if they got their shite together.
Posted on 12/29/19 at 7:58 am to TailbackU
The playoffs have done none of that.
Posted on 12/29/19 at 7:59 am to tigerfan4120
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that’s up to them.
Yeah not really. And this proves you dont understand what's really going on
Posted on 12/29/19 at 8:00 am to TailbackU
Enlighten me. Or go fat finger the downvote button - I don’t really care.
But I think I have a good understanding of college football dynamics, and your take is silly.
But I think I have a good understanding of college football dynamics, and your take is silly.
Posted on 12/29/19 at 8:05 am to TailbackU
What does that have to do with the CFP? Your overall point is reasonable, but you could argue the CFP is actually better because it allows for 4 teams from around the country to have a chance to win a title rather than the old system where there were only 2 teams left standing after the first week of December.
This post was edited on 12/29/19 at 11:27 am
Posted on 12/29/19 at 8:12 am to NaturalBeam
He doesn't like the playoff because auburn has never made it in
Posted on 12/29/19 at 8:15 am to tigerfan4120
I rest my case...
In any creative system there is something called the pareto distribution. A very tiny percentage of (people, programs, companies, etc.) produce almost all the outcome. The square root of all the producers produces half the product.
So of 64 P5 teams only about 8 teams have any real shot at the title. Of those 8, 6 of them are from the South. = regional sport.
In any creative system there is something called the pareto distribution. A very tiny percentage of (people, programs, companies, etc.) produce almost all the outcome. The square root of all the producers produces half the product.
So of 64 P5 teams only about 8 teams have any real shot at the title. Of those 8, 6 of them are from the South. = regional sport.
Posted on 12/29/19 at 8:18 am to TailbackU
How did the CFP contribute to, or exacerbate, that problem?
Posted on 12/29/19 at 8:20 am to TailbackU
None of that has anything to do with the playoff.
Posted on 12/29/19 at 8:25 am to TailbackU
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The best thing that could happen to the sport is that a Texas
The "rest of the country" doesn't perceive Texas as being all that different from the SEC - in other words, southern.
Posted on 12/29/19 at 8:26 am to NaturalBeam
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How did the CFP contribute to, or exacerbate, that problem?
My speculation is two-fold...one, that it centralized the championship which took away the uniqueness of the sport and took the polls out of it. A BYU '84, GT '90, UW'91 would never happen now... and two, it devalues winning the conference titles which kept interest by region. No one cares or even remembers who won the pac12 or B1G or SEC for that matter except the teams that won it. Did the playoff give us a "true champion"? Perhaps. But at what cost?
The same teams, give or take one, will be in it next year and the next and the next because the talent will continue to gravitate to those teams.
Posted on 12/29/19 at 8:30 am to TailbackU
You're pissing in the wind.
The audience here has 2 thoughts....
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The audience here has 2 thoughts....
Mmmmmm corndogs
And
Damn I want to have burro's children
Posted on 12/29/19 at 8:35 am to TailbackU
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it devalues winning the conference titles which kept interest by region. No one cares or even remembers who won the pac12 or B1G or SEC for that matter except the teams that won it.
I think this is the real issue. It’s the same phenomenon that’s killing the non-playoff bowls,
Posted on 12/29/19 at 8:37 am to Crowknowsbest
Bowls used to mean something. In a perfect world, 32 teams should play in bowls. That's basically the Top 25 and your G5 champs.
Posted on 12/29/19 at 8:41 am to SCLibertarian
The reality is that there are not very many programs that are capable of winning a national championship, especially in a playoff system where they have to actually go do it on the field.
A lot more teams were capable of getting hot, winning a conference, and potentially getting voted as the top team.
A lot more teams were capable of getting hot, winning a conference, and potentially getting voted as the top team.
Posted on 12/29/19 at 8:45 am to Crowknowsbest
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lot more teams were capable of getting hot, winning a conference, and potentially getting voted as the top team.
All those bama nattys could be claimed because they were voted on by the women's home journal of west Tuscaloosa. Much easier to win it that way than to play for it for sure.
Posted on 12/29/19 at 8:50 am to TailbackU
Nice liberal take on the sport...so the other conferences can't get it done in recruiting, which in turn affects their performance on the field with losses to those schools that do get it done in recruiting, so those that do get labeled as greedy...
Many of these schools, not all, in the PAC, Big 12 and Big 10 as well as many in the ACC do not invest in their football programs infrastructure to win the recruits that are necessary to put them on a level playing field with those that do, especially the SEC pretty much as a whole invests heavily into their football programs...
You reap what you sow...if you are not willing to plant the seeds that will make your football program better you can't complain about those that do when they have a harvest to pick and you have nothing but weeds growing...
if you are not willing to invest in your program to compete yearly in the Power 5 level, drop to the Group of 5 and let a Group of 5 that is investing in their program to take your place...
When it came to the polls there was bias there too when it came to voters/sports writers and the region the covered...its always been that way...
Many of these schools, not all, in the PAC, Big 12 and Big 10 as well as many in the ACC do not invest in their football programs infrastructure to win the recruits that are necessary to put them on a level playing field with those that do, especially the SEC pretty much as a whole invests heavily into their football programs...
You reap what you sow...if you are not willing to plant the seeds that will make your football program better you can't complain about those that do when they have a harvest to pick and you have nothing but weeds growing...
if you are not willing to invest in your program to compete yearly in the Power 5 level, drop to the Group of 5 and let a Group of 5 that is investing in their program to take your place...
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The sport was unique among sport with the bowl and the polls
When it came to the polls there was bias there too when it came to voters/sports writers and the region the covered...its always been that way...
Posted on 12/29/19 at 8:55 am to LSURulzSEC
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.if you are not willing to plant the seeds that will make your football program better you can't complain about those that do
You really have no idea how systems work, do you
Posted on 12/29/19 at 8:58 am to TailbackU
It doesn’t help either that the best teams
In the southeast are cherry picking the top recruits from out west. We’ll see how long that is tolerated.
In the southeast are cherry picking the top recruits from out west. We’ll see how long that is tolerated.
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