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Posted on 3/9/25 at 7:45 pm to nicholastiger
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Why do they get homecourt advantage
Can we get the Baseball championships out of Bama's backyard
Can we get the SEC football championship out of UGA's homefield
Can we get the mens tournament out of Vandys backyard
Can we get the WCWS out of OU's backyard
Posted on 3/9/25 at 7:47 pm to TexasWranglers
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Yeah Kansas ran the Big 12 bball tourney, that only makes my point.
It should rotate thats all I am saying. If its been parked in SC why? There is no reason for that. Rotate it to 3-4 large cities or campuses.
The point that is getting made is that you recognize that conference championship games are typically in one place...and you dont like it when it's not your place...again I doubt you had issue with the championship games held near your venue...but basketball near Kansas or SC...thats an issue
Posted on 3/9/25 at 7:49 pm to TexasWranglers
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You got me, you upset the #1 team in the nation with a better record than you.
What you should have said was "In terms of conference titles we added another to out dominating women's basketball recent history"
Not sweating a loss in womens bball in the conf title game in the least bit.
Enjoy the one thing your university has been decent at this century.
We also beat you twice with that stellar record you have against cupcake teams.
you act like we also havent won 2 baseball national championship since you guys last won one. Both happened this century
Posted on 3/9/25 at 7:50 pm to SirCocky
71,000 and some change is what was announced at the game, also today Game had over 13k both are new WBB SEC Tournament records.
Greenville and BSW Arena do a phenomenal job hosting this tournament. If another city wants to host all they have to do is put in a better bid. With the addition of new schools in the league, it's not a very central location but what it does have is it's easily accessible for not just Carolina but Tennessee as the most stored WBB SEC program as well. All this talk about a home arena the same can be said about other SEC Championship venues, heck we're not even the closest SEC campus to Greenville.
Greenville and BSW Arena do a phenomenal job hosting this tournament. If another city wants to host all they have to do is put in a better bid. With the addition of new schools in the league, it's not a very central location but what it does have is it's easily accessible for not just Carolina but Tennessee as the most stored WBB SEC program as well. All this talk about a home arena the same can be said about other SEC Championship venues, heck we're not even the closest SEC campus to Greenville.
Posted on 3/9/25 at 8:09 pm to GamecockUltimate
Don't bring logic and facts into this.
The tournaments rotate. It's been in Greenville for a while because it won the bid, and from all accounts, the city does a great job with it.
Idgaf if they move it. I'm not likely to attend it. But I do think it's awfully rich that home field advantage suddenly is awful when SC dominates something.
The better question is why is the SEC Baseball tournament doomed to Hoover until the end of time.
The tournaments rotate. It's been in Greenville for a while because it won the bid, and from all accounts, the city does a great job with it.
Idgaf if they move it. I'm not likely to attend it. But I do think it's awfully rich that home field advantage suddenly is awful when SC dominates something.
The better question is why is the SEC Baseball tournament doomed to Hoover until the end of time.
Posted on 3/9/25 at 8:23 pm to Randyh3253
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Tennessee
People don't realize this. It's a little under 2 hours to Greenville from Columbia. Knoxville is a little under 3 hours away. There was a contingent of Vol fans there all weekend, even after Tennessee lost to Vandy.
Posted on 3/9/25 at 8:32 pm to GamecockUltimate
No I think it should rotate regardless of I if in Texas or not. What I’m not a fan of is one place having a championship or conference champ venue for an extended time
Posted on 3/10/25 at 7:24 am to TexasWranglers
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No I think it should rotate regardless of I if in Texas or not. What I’m not a fan of is one place having a championship or conference champ venue for an extended time
I do not miss the Big 12 tourney being in KC every year filled with 90% KU fans.
Posted on 3/10/25 at 7:38 am to Pimphand
quote:Is your Fix in 8.6? I didn't really consider the Fix at all but I recently was sold on 8.6 and the Fix seems to be made specifically for it.
LOL I have a Honeybadger SD, Fix, Mini-Fix, and Boombox but those stay at home or go hunting.
As much as I'd love a Honey Badger, MP5s are timeless and I don't see the point in having both, especially at the Honey Badger's price point.
Posted on 3/10/25 at 7:47 am to Murph4HOF
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Is your Fix in 8.6? I didn't really consider the Fix at all but I recently was sold on 8.6 and the Fix seems to be made specifically for it.
I have both 8.6 and 6.5 Creedmoor barrels.
Posted on 3/10/25 at 8:36 am to TexasWranglers
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No I think it should rotate regardless of I if in Texas or not.
I don't inherently have a problem with rotation of the tournaments, or even the SEC championship game.
All I'm saying is, the SEC football championship game has been in Atlanta since shortly after inception, and is a smashing success (though i expect Nashville to bid for it when the Titans get their new digs). The men's tourney seems to have found a home in Nashville (at a hockey arena, of all places, even though it was built for basketball first - square that circle), and is likewise a success.
Baseball is stuck in Alabama, and is largely maligned. I don't think anyone likes going there. The Women's tourney has bounced around a bit (I remember it was in Gwinnett for a while), but Greenville seems to do a great job with it, and is close to the two traditional Women's powers in SC and UTK.
Where would you want the tourneys and championship games to go? DFW isn't an answer, as it has the same relative outpost problem that Greenville has.
No flame here. Truly asking
Posted on 3/10/25 at 8:59 am to nicholastiger
We won it in Little Rock, Jacksonville and Nashville. Geez...build a team to beat us.
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Can we get the women’s tourney out of South Carolina
Posted on 3/10/25 at 9:25 am to nicholastiger
It should be in Dallas, TX every year, I'll contact Jerry.
Posted on 3/10/25 at 11:06 am to RoyalAir
This is the type of discussion I always hope to get at on the board so thank you so much.
I realize that fan perspective / what may be fair vs revenue is not always aligned. In my opinion I think the sites should rotate below:
Football: Atlanta, NO, DFW/Houston, Nashville - All have large venues that can handle the capacity, all are already part of the CFP process (except Nashville), all have reasons to draw fans for tourism, and all including DFW have at least 4 teams very close. DFW has Texas, ATM, Ark, OR all within a 3-4 hour drive and is a viable solution. I would be curious why you think it is not?
College Basketball - Tourney in Nashville seems like a fair equidistant location. Houston could also host the tourney on off years as well.
College Baseball
Womens BBall / Softball / Other no rev sports - I get these have to establish a following and need ticket sales (although the TV rev is the same regardless I would assume) so rotating may not make the most sense if there is an established following. I dont like OU having the Softball champ but they definitely show up and support it. Would be curious how well it would do if OU wasnt there, of SC wasnt at thew womens SEC bball tourney semis and up.
My post was mainly about fairness as a fan. I do not know all the logistics and revenue needs to rotate a tourney but now that Texas and OU are in this conference (like it or not for a lot of fans) trying cities like Houston and Dallas which are 2 of the top 6 cities in population in America might a good idea on occasion. Not saying park it there but rotating is a good idea if you want to keep fanbases interested. If not, its a massive advantage in fan engagement and competitiveness when the tourney or championship is in your backyard. If it rotates and your team happens to make it then thats the luck of the draw but if its parked in your backyard for years you will have those imbalances.
I realize that fan perspective / what may be fair vs revenue is not always aligned. In my opinion I think the sites should rotate below:
Football: Atlanta, NO, DFW/Houston, Nashville - All have large venues that can handle the capacity, all are already part of the CFP process (except Nashville), all have reasons to draw fans for tourism, and all including DFW have at least 4 teams very close. DFW has Texas, ATM, Ark, OR all within a 3-4 hour drive and is a viable solution. I would be curious why you think it is not?
College Basketball - Tourney in Nashville seems like a fair equidistant location. Houston could also host the tourney on off years as well.
College Baseball
Womens BBall / Softball / Other no rev sports - I get these have to establish a following and need ticket sales (although the TV rev is the same regardless I would assume) so rotating may not make the most sense if there is an established following. I dont like OU having the Softball champ but they definitely show up and support it. Would be curious how well it would do if OU wasnt there, of SC wasnt at thew womens SEC bball tourney semis and up.
My post was mainly about fairness as a fan. I do not know all the logistics and revenue needs to rotate a tourney but now that Texas and OU are in this conference (like it or not for a lot of fans) trying cities like Houston and Dallas which are 2 of the top 6 cities in population in America might a good idea on occasion. Not saying park it there but rotating is a good idea if you want to keep fanbases interested. If not, its a massive advantage in fan engagement and competitiveness when the tourney or championship is in your backyard. If it rotates and your team happens to make it then thats the luck of the draw but if its parked in your backyard for years you will have those imbalances.
Posted on 3/10/25 at 11:47 am to TexasWranglers
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My post was mainly about fairness as a fan. I do not know all the logistics and revenue needs to rotate a tourney but now that Texas and OU are in this conference (like it or not for a lot of fans) trying cities like Houston and Dallas which are 2 of the top 6 cities in population in America might a good idea on occasion. Not saying park it there but rotating is a good idea if you want to keep fanbases interested. If not, its a massive advantage in fan engagement and competitiveness when the tourney or championship is in your backyard. If it rotates and your team happens to make it then thats the luck of the draw but if its parked in your backyard for years you will have those imbalances.
And I understand that. The women's tourney in particular has been a vagabond for most of its inception. Jax, Little Rock, Gwinnett, Albany, Ga, Greenville. I think at one point it was in Chattanooga, as well. Greenville even hosted it when SC was dosghit 20 years ago. But notice those locations - they're all second-tier cities. Yes, Gwinnett is metro Atlanta, but it's not being held at the Dome or at Philips Arena (GFY State Farm). That seems to be a decent outcome for it, and again, it has rotated for years. It just happened to be in Greenville this year, is all. If Plano wants to host it, they should bid for it. It seems the most transient of the tournaments, for sure.
The Men's tourney also has moved around, most notably Atlanta, Tampa, Memphis, NO, and, in a very strange year, St Louis. That felt odd to me, almost like we are trying to put something where it doesn't belong. Nashville seems to be where it has settled, but it could very well be on the move again. Sankey will do anything for $20, though he'll trip over $100 to get to it.
I personally do not want the SEC Championship game to move. Going to Atlanta in the SEC has become as synonymous with success in football as going to Omaha is in baseball. Yeah, you could try DFW or New Orleans, and I am certain that Nashville will try. But it's been in Atlanta for 30 years. It's ingrained in the SEC culture, and I don't want it changing for the sake of changing. And hell, I'm a Carolina grad. We've only ever been once, so it's not like I'm making shite easier for my own kind. From all accounts, The Benz has done such a phenomenal job with it that an NFL stadium is more known as college football's epicenter than any other stadium in CFB/NFL. Move it to DFW, and it's the SEC Champ played where the Cowboys play. In Atlanta, it's just the SEC Champ. I think that matters.
Again, the only tourney I'd love to see moved is the SEC baseball tournament. I'd like to see it rotate - Memphis at Auto Zone Park would be awesome, and it's closer for the teams that are traditionally competitive in it. When Chattanooga builds their new stadium, that would be cool, too. I don't want it in a major league stadium, because I think it takes away from the appeal of the college game. Folks on this board have had dozens of ideas of how to move this one around, and all have been great concepts. But it's anchored in Hoover for some unknown reason.
This post was edited on 3/10/25 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 3/10/25 at 12:23 pm to nicholastiger
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Why do they get homecourt advantage
WHERE should any championships be held where NOBODY “has home court advantage”?
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