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re: Can someone explain to me how Bama got a 1st down at the 5 yd line

Posted on 11/10/14 at 12:42 pm to
Posted by northalabamacracker
Glasgow
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 11/10/14 at 12:42 pm to
Why do you think the refs were cheating and helping LSU by not calling that?
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19686 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 12:52 pm to
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Because it wasnt. Both guys were hand fighting with each other, and the safety came over and made a great play on the ball.
for 2 reasons. first, they let the dbs and wrs fight the entire game, so calling it there but nowhere else would have been the wrong call. Second, once the ball is in the air the DB has the same right to the ball as the wr. jones was actally in better position to catch the ball the dupre, and so the fact that the were both fighting either means a no call (which was correct), or offsetting penalties. Based on the way the game was played previously, the no call was correct. Could have just as easily been offensive pass interference.

The personal foul in OT is a bit more esoteric, but its the correct call, because the foul happened before the chains were set to first and goal from the 1. the similar situation that happened to lsu was after the 1st down play, so the chains were already set.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 12:53 pm to
Again, is an LSU fan going to argue that LSU's o-line didn't get away with MASSIVE holding on that last play? Anybody?
Posted by arrakis
Member since Nov 2008
21168 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 12:54 pm to
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the ball on the punt did touch the line, the LSU player who knocked it back with his right hand, had his left foot over the line and his right hand was past all other parts of his body, after I paused it his left foot immediately touched down 6 inches into the endzone,

WTF are you trying to say? Player's hands...player's feet....etc.

Did the ball hit the goal line or not?
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22153 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 12:57 pm to
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Again, is an LSU fan going to argue that LSU's o-line didn't get away with MASSIVE holding on that last play? Anybody?


I'm going to need more than that picture posted to tell you there was holding. That picture doesn't show anything.

There was a play where locouture beat his man and was held the entire play. I'm sure there were many others not called on either team.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19686 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 12:57 pm to
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I have not seen the play y'all are talking about, but are you saying that a TD instead of a field goal in the first half would have won the game for bama? really?
you mean a TD instead of no points? in a game that went ot overtime. Yes, it would have won the game in regulation
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 1:00 pm to
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I'm going to need more than that picture posted to tell you there was holding. That picture doesn't show anything.


Ok, here you go. You can clearly see he has Dickson in a bear hug. He turns Dickson around and is holding him with two hands.

Last Play - Bama LSU
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22153 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 1:02 pm to
Lol. Nothing in the first half of that game decided the final outcome.

That's like me saying if Dural doesn't fall down on the Jennings int then LSU wins the game in regulation.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 1:02 pm to
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There was a play where locouture beat his man and was held the entire play. I'm sure there were many others not called on either team.


And there was a play when your DB held our WR's arm down so he couldn't catch a TD pass.

That's the point. There were tons of these both directions and you guys look like total looneybirds blatantly ignoring the ones that helped you while parsing the ones that you think hurt you.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 1:03 pm to
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Lol. Nothing in the first half of that game decided the final outcome.


ONLY MISSED CALLS WE THINK ARE MISSED CALLS IN THE TIME FRAME WE PICK REALLY MATTER

DUMB BAMMER
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22153 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 1:05 pm to
As I've already said, I was at the game and have not watched the replay on tv yet. I was only commenting on the PI on the last play and then the picture of the hold. I'm sure there were many other missed penalties on both sides, but those are nearly impossible to see from the stands.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22153 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 1:06 pm to
Do you think of Dural doesn't fall down that LSU wins in regulation?
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19686 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 1:08 pm to
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Lol. Nothing in the first half of that game decided the final outcome
how retarded are you? seven points in a game where the score was 10-13 into the last minute would not have decided the game? clearly because it was against alabama it had no effect on the game.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22153 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 1:10 pm to
I'm not saying it would not have affected the game. I said it would not have been the deciding factor in the outcome of the game.

Question: if Dural doesn't fall down does LSU win?
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19686 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 1:11 pm to
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Do you think of Dural doesn't fall down that LSU wins in regulation?


could be, but thats not even what is being discussed here. you are talking about ref calls, dural falling down has nothing to do with it. The dandrew white PI non call in the endzone was pretty clear, LSU player was not even turned around. There are just as many instances of bama players dropping passes or blake missing wide open guys. i can think of half a dozen huge gains cooper dropped, a couple that would have been scores
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
52147 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 1:13 pm to
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and LSU got one downed on the 1 that should have been a touchback.
What a bunch of idiots
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 1:13 pm to
Yep.

The point is both teams got questionable calls against them in huge spots. LSU fans have decided to totally ignore all the ones that favored them, act like they don't exist and then talk about it as if they got screwed on all calls and Alabama got screwed on none.

Just embarassing.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62759 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 1:16 pm to
Let me explain this so you all can understand it.
Imagine a punt return and a penalty occurs right after or before the play is blown dead.
The refs move the ball 10 or 15 yards back and the next play is 1st and 10.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22153 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 1:17 pm to
I'm not talking about the merits of the call. I've already said I haven't even seen the play. I only pointed out how stupid your assumption was that if the pi call is made or if there is not pi there then bama wins the game. No single play in the first half decided the outcome of the game. However, you seem to think that if bama scores a touchdown there they win the game.

I displayed your stupidity by asking you if Dural falls down does LSU win. Of course, your answer is maybe which is exactly my point. No play in the first half decided the game.
Posted by Othello
the Neptonian Steel Mines
Member since Aug 2013
22925 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 1:23 pm to
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If the refs had saw the LSU player try to pull R Raglands pants down, what would the penalty be and could it involve an ejection?


I love how LSU fans aren't go anywhere near that one.
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