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re: CAMGATE - What YOU need to know
Posted on 11/14/10 at 6:31 pm to jjbodean1970
Posted on 11/14/10 at 6:31 pm to jjbodean1970
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so how do you explain the albert means case? he was clearly being promoted and marketed
2009, bylaws changed
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Posted on 11/14/10 at 6:34 pm to RobbBobb
quote:ive heard that, but havent gotten an explanation, what was the exact change?
2009, bylaws changed
Posted on 11/14/10 at 8:08 pm to jjbodean1970
Cam Newton = Mike Vick
Lack of humility
Lack of humility
Posted on 11/14/10 at 8:20 pm to randyb
in reference to NCAA rules, would "Unethical Conduct" include the supposed missteps Cam made at Florida? i mean, do we really want this person as our Heisman trophy winner?
Posted on 11/14/10 at 10:05 pm to Johnny Brannan
Maybe that's why Tuberville left.
He knows AU cheats?
He knows AU cheats?
Posted on 11/14/10 at 10:22 pm to I Love Bama
I may have read over it or missed it, but I think the fact that cam let Cecil decide what school he went to is a factor to Cecil asking for money
Posted on 11/15/10 at 12:46 am to AUTigLN11
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CAMGATE - What YOU need to know
You forgot.
November 13th, Auburn wins the West.
I thought Cam-Gate had "NOTHING to do with Auburn" ???
Posted on 11/15/10 at 1:04 am to PurpleGold
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Maybe that's why Tuberville left.
He knows AU cheats?
After jet-gate, Tubbs kicked the old guard of cheaters out of the program and it suffered a little, but remained respectable concerning win/loss record.
Dye and the bunch hated him for that. At the first chance, they canned his arse and brought in a 5-19 'YES' man. Someone they knew they could control and use to skate around the rules again.
The old AU guard has been pulling the strings again since the moment Tubbs was fired after his FIRST loss to Bama in 7 years.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 9:43 am to RollTideTA
Posted on 11/15/10 at 9:51 am to Roaad
... no team can match 'Bama's "payroll" .. 
( oh ... and Saban "has no knowledge of any improprieties " )
( oh ... and Saban "has no knowledge of any improprieties " )
Posted on 11/15/10 at 10:12 am to pensacola
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If FATHER shops STUDENT to school A (without STUDENT's knowledge), does this make STUDENT ineligible at any school or just ineligible at school A?
See? That's the problem with Auburn's response. If they have clean hands (*hint, they don't and the AD and football coaches know it), they declare him ineligible and apply for reinstatement based on the "fact" that Auburn and Cam are innocent and Rogers, Cecil and MSU are guilty.
That's impossible to do since the evidence doesn't support it. "All in", until the trumpet blows and and the walls come down.
Slive, Jacobs and Chizik will all be caught in the backwash of this.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 12:49 pm to Ace Midnight
Not a question of if, but when: Cam Newton will be declared ineligible.
From Clay Travis today.
From Clay Travis today.
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Auburn's defense to a prospective athlete receiving an improper benefit will be composed of three parts: a. that Cam Newton didn't know his father solicited funds -- the most crucial part b. Newton didn't attend the school his father solicited funds from and c. no funds ever changed hands for Newton to attend school at Auburn.
It's not a bad defense given how woeful Auburn's options are, but it's a desperate one that is doomed to fail. Why? Because if accepted, the defense would open up a hole in the NCAA rulebook that you could drive a Brink's truck full of cash through. If the NCAA accepts this defense to its bylaws, it would mean that any recruit's family was free to shake down the schools that were recruiting him so long as the family claimed the recruit was unaware of it and the player didn't end up attending the school.
Think about how ridiculous this would be.
Grandmother's across the country could call up head coaches, demand hundreds of thousands of dollars from those coaches, and then there would be two options for the coach: a. the money comes, the solicitation works and everyone tries to keep quiet once the player arrives on campus or b. the money doesn't come and the player remains free to play somewhere else. Whereupon the grandmother calls a new school and repeats the solicitation.
Plainly, this argument is going to fail.
This post was edited on 11/15/10 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 11/15/10 at 12:57 pm to tuck
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a. that Cam Newton didn't know his father solicited funds -- the most crucial part b. Newton didn't attend the school his father solicited funds from and c. no funds ever changed hands for Newton to attend school at Auburn.
Someone help me with this. If you solicited funds from one school, why wouldn't you from the school he attended? doesn't make sense.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 1:04 pm to dos crystal
quote:Yeah, that's what everyone except Auburn is saying. The fact is that no evidence has come out implicating Auburn paying for Cam YET. That is what Auburn fans are clinging to right now. I believe there will be evidence when it's all said and done.
Someone help me with this. If you solicited funds from one school, why wouldn't you from the school he attended? doesn't make sense.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 2:54 pm to DeltaDoc
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I hope this is not Germans, but could be a link to the money...interesting if nothing else...
That article was difficult to read, definitely not well written at all.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 2:59 pm to tuck
This is beyond absurd. Cam should be done playing. Period, the end.
The SEC should step in by now.. but if not them, then the NCAA needs to.
The SEC should step in by now.. but if not them, then the NCAA needs to.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 3:22 pm to SouljaBreauxTellEm
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The SEC should step in by now
Do they ever actually do that?
Posted on 11/15/10 at 3:35 pm to AlxTgr
slive knows and doesn't care. business is good. this is the steroids in baseball. he's got 4 titles in four years by three different teams. this is his drive for five with four different teams.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 4:01 pm to dos crystal
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Someone help me with this. If you solicited funds from one school, why wouldn't you from the school he attended? doesn't make sense.
As I said in another thread...these Barners apparently seem to think that he just fell THAT in love w/ Toomer's Corner.
I dunno...I guess it's possible that even the most skilled, beautiful and expensive call girl can have ONE guy that she really loves. But I really doubt that's the case here.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 4:15 pm to I Love Bama
Know what is sad that Auburn will down the road have to vacate its victories for 2010. SEC will have to vacate BCS champship if Auburn wins and LSU if wins out not in SEC game and possible BCS chance. SAD
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