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re: Cam Newton vs Joe Burrow (National Championship Game stats)

Posted on 1/20/20 at 12:03 pm to
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 12:03 pm to
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Now do NFL draft picks for Oregon’s defense and then for Clemson’s.



Interesting the amount of replies this received.

There is no question Burrow is a better traditional style QB.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 12:15 pm to
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Other than Cam, please name the NFL draft picks on the 2010 auburn offense
The only AU player who both a) made a reception during the 2010 season and 2) was eventually drafted by an NFL team was Cam Newton, who caught 2 passes for 42 yards, including a 22-yard TD vs Ole Miss.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 12:17 pm to
Agree, and the fact the Gus never used Cam in a traditional style QB role. He was a much better passer than how Gus used him. It wasn’t until about mid season before he let him pass much at all.

Does anyone think Burrow will have an MVP season in his future?
This post was edited on 1/20/20 at 12:18 pm
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 12:21 pm to
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Does anyone think Burrow will have an MVP season in his future?


He has the tools but as we all know, what your GM puts around you is all the difference. I’m not sold on the bengals as a franchise. They need to sell the team to someone who gives a shite.
This post was edited on 1/20/20 at 12:22 pm
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 12:25 pm to
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Now do NFL draft picks for Oregon’s defense and then for Clemson’s
Don’t know about Clemson’s since the next three drafts haven’t happened yet.

I do know that Oregon had twice as many defensive players suit up for the 2010 BCSCG that were eventually drafted (6) than AU had offensive players (3, including Cam).
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 12:35 pm to
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Interesting stuff

Nope, not particularly. Wanna take a guess on what Burrow's numbers would have been if he had Gus Malzahn as his OC? In fact, I maintain Burrow would have never made it the game, if Gus was LSU's OC this year.
Posted by CFFreak
Rjyh, AL
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 12:36 pm to
Burrow. GOAT.

Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 12:38 pm to
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Everyone knows Burrow had a better season. Even most Auburn fans will probably admit it.
But not many outside of the LSU fans would take Burrow over Cam as their QB. Burrow's are a dime a dozen in the Big 12 and PAC 12.
This post was edited on 1/20/20 at 12:43 pm
Posted by Grim
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 12:41 pm to
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But not many outside of the LSU fans would take Burrow over Cam as their QB.

How about we run a poll on that?
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 12:44 pm to
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How about we run a poll on that?

How about we do it without Auburn or LSU fans getting to vote? The number of LSU fans on here way out number everyone else combined. Better make sure they only look at Burrow's 2019 stats and ignore his 2018 stats.
This post was edited on 1/20/20 at 12:46 pm
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 12:46 pm to
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Does anyone think Burrow will have an MVP season in his future?


Playing for Cincinnati?

The Panthers might not have been great before Cam, but they weren't anywhere near the epic level of suck the Bengals have going for them.
Posted by autodd03
Clown world
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 12:47 pm to
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The SEC has had some amazing QBs over the past dozen or so years. Burrow, Newton, Tebow, Tua, Hurts, Manziel


A certain school in western alabama seems to always insert itself where it does not belong.
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 12:48 pm to
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The only AU player who both a) made a reception during the 2010 season and 2) was eventually drafted by an NFL team was Cam Newton, who caught 2 passes for 42 yards, including a 22-yard TD vs Ole Miss.
Only 1 other player has ever taken a NFL snap and that was a lineman.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 12:49 pm to
As accurate as Burrow is throwing the ball, I do not think he is a franchise player regardless who he plays for. He will have a good career, but not in the elite status. Even for one year.
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
13363 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 12:50 pm to
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The Panthers might not have been great before Cam, but they weren't anywhere near the epic level of suck the Bengals have going for them.


Nah. I'm sure Burrow will never get rattled with those NFL players shredding that OL and hitting him. They have nothing on Clemson those first 3 drives.
This post was edited on 1/20/20 at 12:51 pm
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 1:01 pm to
3 drives, wow ..if u say anything negative about that game ur dumb
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
13363 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 1:09 pm to
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3 drives, wow ..if u say anything negative about that game ur dumb
Just simply showing how average Joe is where he has any pressure on him. He's not going to have the privilege of no pressure or garbage defenders in the NFL. The worst is a thousand times better than Clemson. He's also not going to be running over anyone like Cam either when the pass isn't there.
This post was edited on 1/20/20 at 1:11 pm
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 1:14 pm to
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Dak is best QB in CFB history


Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 1:14 pm to
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If my offense needed a pocket passer QB, I’d take Joe. If my offense needed a dual threat QB, I’d take Cam. It’s as simple as that for me. I don’t think either QB would have won an NC in the other’s offense



I don’t know why this is downvoted. It’s the obvious answer.

Burrow would probably have been great in Malzahn’s offense but Cam had some 200+ yard rushing performances and unreal highlights (on the ground) to pull us out of games.

I also don’t think Cam would have been as efficient in Brady’s offense as a passer. Does Brady give him the freedom to rush like he did for Auburn? Even Gus wasn’t using Cam to his potential in the gameplan the first few games.
Posted by smash williams
San Diego
Member since Apr 2009
19749 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 1:18 pm to
Joe Burrow graded out better than any other college QB when being pressured. It’s the reason DC’s tried going 3-1-7 because they didn’t want to blitz and get torched by Joe.
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