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re: Buying a national title
Posted on 1/12/25 at 9:43 am to BLG
Posted on 1/12/25 at 9:43 am to BLG
I disagree with the "buying a title" narrative
FSU reportedly spent something around $13m on their roster this year and they were the worst P4 team. They also completely built their roster around transfers. Plenty of other teams (including LSU) are going portal aggressive. Ole Miss and Oregon have been aggressive from the get go of the portal era.
The team that won the title last year spent a lot of money retaining guys they already had. Between ND and OSU, the winner this year will again be a team that primarily built within and just paid to retain. I dont see how you can call that buying a title when all they did was pay guys they already had. If you don't pay them, they will transfer out or go to the NFL
FSU reportedly spent something around $13m on their roster this year and they were the worst P4 team. They also completely built their roster around transfers. Plenty of other teams (including LSU) are going portal aggressive. Ole Miss and Oregon have been aggressive from the get go of the portal era.
The team that won the title last year spent a lot of money retaining guys they already had. Between ND and OSU, the winner this year will again be a team that primarily built within and just paid to retain. I dont see how you can call that buying a title when all they did was pay guys they already had. If you don't pay them, they will transfer out or go to the NFL
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Posted on 1/12/25 at 9:46 am to BLG
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on the flip side, and it's probably already been posted in this thread but I'm not reading all this: It's more likely that when this is properly regulated the way NFL, NBA, and MLB is, this bogus "NIL" era will be noted as bought and paid for pay for play.
Depends on how effective the new so-called "revenue sharing" becomes this season. If boosters make a shambles out of legit business deals and are still writing blank checks, not so much.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 10:27 am to SEC Doctor
You guys have been pocket watching Ohio State's roster all year as if your favorite teams aren't spending millions of dollars on NIL also.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 10:27 am to bamameister
quote:I disagree. I believe Saban went after stars and played the odds on the ones that panned out. That was the way he coached. Horde as much talent as possible and out talent other teams. When NIL came along and he couldn't horde talent anymore, he knew his days were over and retired. Besides screwing over the QB position again with Milroe.
No one knew football players better under those stars on their helmets than Coach Saban
This post was edited on 1/12/25 at 10:34 am
Posted on 1/12/25 at 10:47 am to Opry
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I disagree. I believe Saban went after stars and played the odds on the ones that panned out.
Chew on this. Alabama’s five-star recruits were picked in the first round 51.5 percent of the time. Five-star recruits that go to any other school, at least on average, get selected 21.2 percent of the time. A five-star prospect who picks Alabama was more than doubly likely to be selected in the first round.
Five-star recruits who step on Alabama’s campus during the Nick Saban reign of terror were eventually picked at an 81.9-percent rate. Every other draft-eligible five-star was picked at a 68.1-percent ratio.
That’s a staggering gap in development.
Usually, this is where I tell a fan to know their BAMA history, but that is the last thing you are dude.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 10:58 am to bamameister
Thats WHEN Saban could horde them. When NIL came along, those days were over.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 11:06 am to Opry
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Thats WHEN Saban could horde them. When NIL came along, those days were over.
NiL + transfer portal ended it.
But, it wasn't under the table money that enabled Bama and Saban, and I'm not saying that wasn't happening. All programs were and still are paying.
But, the recruitment and development opportunities were the key points in differentiation. Saban offered NFL level development and opportunities, plus championship caliber football and exposure.
Now, maximizing value, brand and earnings seems the driving force. And, I don't blame the players for that. They aren't guaranteed another game from week to week, let alone an NFL contract. Maximizing their earnings in college is a smart individual move.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 11:10 am to Faurot fodder
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At least LSU has the integrity to not go that route.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 2:05 pm to Che Boludo
If you believe all teams were buying players then you are being purposely obtuse. Sure, a lot were but not enough to affect the under the table market. Vandy, NC State, GT, Wake, Indiana, Purdue, and dozens more were not.
Now they all are which is why the market is is totally unpredictable and why many SEC fanbases are screaming. The vast majority of teams fanbases are not crying and in fact are happy about NIL and the portal because they now have 2 new ways to get players instead of being under cut by bagmen money. The sport will grow because fanbases of the majority won’t bail after a loss or two with an expanded playoff like the6 have for the past 60 years. It’s a new era where a 7 and 8 seed will be in the Natty game.
Now they all are which is why the market is is totally unpredictable and why many SEC fanbases are screaming. The vast majority of teams fanbases are not crying and in fact are happy about NIL and the portal because they now have 2 new ways to get players instead of being under cut by bagmen money. The sport will grow because fanbases of the majority won’t bail after a loss or two with an expanded playoff like the6 have for the past 60 years. It’s a new era where a 7 and 8 seed will be in the Natty game.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 2:18 pm to RunningJacket
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Sure, a lot were but not enough to affect the under the table market. Vandy, NC State, GT, Wake, Indiana, Purdue, and dozens more were not
Are you sure?
I'll revise it to all competitive to semi-competitive teams were/are paying. But, there is not a team out there who did not bend the rules to at least some degree, even the USMA has had a recruiting scandal in the last 10 years.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 4:01 pm to jonnyanony
The Ducks spent a schit ton of money to get run out of the Rose Bowl
Posted on 1/13/25 at 10:08 am to SEC Doctor
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 10:10 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Uh....I'd rather have it out in the open, than Alabama under the table.
As that Comedian said to Saban's face on Gameday...."SEC is pissed because now everyone can pay players ".
You actually think that osu wasn't also doing this?
Posted on 1/13/25 at 10:19 am to BLG
He was also told they (ncaa) weren't investigating tn, so that was immaterial
Posted on 1/13/25 at 11:09 am to SEC Doctor
Are we not doing the same thing?
Posted on 1/13/25 at 12:10 pm to Dawgs9
The B10 crowd likes to tell themselves they weren't. Makes them feel better about sucking arse for two decades.
This post was edited on 1/13/25 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 1/13/25 at 12:16 pm to SEC Doctor
Teams have always payed to get players. If your mad players make money now, would you bring in millions of dollars for your company just have a chance to make money after 3 or 4 years with no guarantee you make the cut? Hell no.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 12:19 pm to HarryBalzack
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The B10 crowd likes to tell themselves they weren't. Makes them feel better about sucking arse for two decades.
Let me share a painful honest moment with you. The SEC basketball teams are benefiting mightily for the exact same reasons.
The SEC has literally blown past the B1G, B-12, and ACC for best basketball conference in the land and might I say, at the speed of light.
The transfer portal and NIL in basketball have the SEC front and center. To borrow a phrase from that great Tuskegee singing group, "She's a Brick House."
Posted on 1/13/25 at 1:06 pm to Bird_Hunter
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Bama 2010-2017 car collection posts were my favorite of all time lol.
Which Louisiana hospital funded Jordan Jefferson's BMW or Eric Reid's Charger?
Posted on 1/13/25 at 1:10 pm to Cool McCool
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Saban bought about 6 of them at Alabama.
Despite the considerable financial outlays by Pruitt, Dooley, and Jones, Tennursee's ceiling was still losing seasons.
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