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Butch Jones is on the verge of being fired after only 1 season at Ark State

Posted on 10/25/21 at 2:23 am
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
25409 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 2:23 am
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Dave Bartoo

@CFBMatrix

Butch Jones drops to -4 games in his first year at Ark State Y'all be following with me long enough to know exactly what that means if he's at -4 or worse come Dec 1.





What this means is that coaches with a -4 record compared to their talent level and schedule/home field advantage (basically he's lost 4 games he shouldn't have already) almost always get fired at the end of a year like that. An we're only in week 8.

The Red Wolves are curenetly 1-6 and have not beaten an FBS team this season. They're only win was against 1-AA Central Arkansas in week one.

Ed O is at -4 games on the year right now and has already been fired.

Conversely, Blake Anderson, the former Ark State coach who left for Utah State last year, is winning his division right now and is has won 4 games already that he shouldn't have based on talent snd schedule.

Objectively, the Butch Jones experiment has been a phenomenal disiater.

Will he get actually get fired?? Who knows, but it ain't looking too good.
This post was edited on 10/25/21 at 3:12 am
Posted by KellerChrystFan
Member since Sep 2018
9630 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 2:57 am to
Probably what he wants so he can go back to being an intern and getting buyout checks.
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
25409 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 3:09 am to
ASU would owe him $2 million if they fire him after this year. Not gigantic, but not exactly chump change for a Sun Belt school.

However, they could probably make the buyout money back by scheduling an arse whopping from the likes of Alabama or Texas or Notre Dame, etc a few times in a season.

quote:

Region 8 Sports asked A-State for a copy of the agreement between the university and coach Butch Jones, here are some bullet points:

- 5 years (December 13th, 2020 - December 31st, 2025), $825,000 per season.
- Contract extended by 1 year if A-State wins 8 games over FBS opponents in a season.
- $50,000 bonus for winning Sun Belt Championship
- $15,000 bonus for reaching Sun Belt Championship Game
- $25,000 bonus for reaching a bowl game
- $5,000 bonus for beating a team that was ranked in the Top 25
- $2,500 bonus if A-State is ranked in the Top 25 (CFP, AP, or Amway Coaches) at any time during a season
- $50,000 bonus for leading A-State to a New Year’s Six bowl game
If other schools come calling for Jones’ services early, there’s a seven-figure price tag. It’s a $2,000,000 buyout if Butch steps down during the first year of the contract. It’s reduced to $1,500,000 in Year 2, $850,000 in Year 3, $650,000 in Year 4, and $450,000 in Year 5.

If A-State terminates the contract without cause: “The University will pay you as liquidated damages an amount equal to five hundred thousand dollars ($500,000.00) times the number of years (including pro-rata for partial years) remaining during the otherwise unexpired term following any such termination, subject to your duty to mitigate by finding other comparable football-related employment.”

Posted by OrangeEmpire
Parts Unknown
Member since Feb 2020
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Posted on 10/25/21 at 4:50 am to


Posted by ptclaus98
Member since Dec 2014
1214 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 4:54 am to
Scum of the Earth
Posted by paperwasp
25x HRV tRant Poster of the Week
Member since Sep 2014
26984 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 5:56 am to
quote:

ASU would owe him $2 million if they fire him after this year

Dang, what a gig, if you can get it.
Posted by dirtsandwich
AL
Member since May 2016
5980 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 6:12 am to
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68175 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 7:00 am to
He shoulda brought that Champions of Life shite to Arkie
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
34978 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 7:01 am to
Today I learned butch is coaching Arkansas state
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
25789 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 7:03 am to
They always bragged that they would be the Boise of the south. Now they are the champions of life.
Posted by Phat Phil
Krispy Kreme
Member since May 2010
7536 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 7:27 am to
Doesn't matter. Ark State players have 5* hearts and are champions of life.
Posted by TheBiggestBrother
Nashville
Member since Jul 2021
2091 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 7:31 am to
Perfect timing. I saw Nick leaving campus the other day and there was some mud behind his back tires. That benz is nowhere near as clean as when Butch Jones was there. Come on home Butch Nick has a dirty car for you
Posted by OrangeEmpire
Parts Unknown
Member since Feb 2020
6179 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 7:33 am to
Bring Butch and Jeremy home.

Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
21744 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 7:49 am to
I forgot they hired him.

What were they thinking?
Posted by Chad4Bama
Member since Sep 2020
7237 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 7:59 am to
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Dang, what a gig, if you can get it.



College football coach has to be the sweetest, most pressure free job in America. You can get paid millions for absolutely sucking and cleaning out your desk. Whatever agent first started suckering ADs into including ridiculous buyout clauses in contracts created a mass number of future underperforming multimillionaires.

I mean...you really needed a buyout clause in order to hire Butch Jones? Or to keep Ed O from leaving LSU? I know it's just monopoly money to ADs...but still.
This post was edited on 10/25/21 at 8:00 am
Posted by LSUsuperfresh
Member since Oct 2010
8455 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:01 am to
They hired him the day before Malzahn was fired from Auburn.. I would have much rather had Malzahn back if I were them
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22755 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:04 am to
quote:

College football coach has to be the sweetest, most pressure free job in America.


There is a lot of truth to that. Not just in contracts but in the way these guys almost always get rehired.

You can fail miserably at job on multiple levels repeatedly and continue to get opportunities.
Posted by paperwasp
25x HRV tRant Poster of the Week
Member since Sep 2014
26984 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:06 am to
quote:

Perfect timing. That benz is nowhere near as clean as when Butch Jones was there.

Posted by SemperFiDawg
Member since Sep 2014
2940 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 6:16 pm to
Todd Granthams' phone rings.
Posted by TFH
Member since Apr 2016
2618 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 6:22 pm to
And Central Arkansas must be down this year to lose to Ark St. UCA is generally pretty good in their conference
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