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re: Bruce Pearl really did break the alabama fanbase

Posted on 4/11/19 at 2:48 pm to
Posted by Irons Puppet
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Posted on 4/11/19 at 2:48 pm to
It is all about experience and playing time in big games. Buck Johnson’s son is faster than Harper and may end up better. The incoming Freshman will add depth and there is still a recruit or two that will be game changers.
Posted by jangalang
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Posted on 4/11/19 at 2:49 pm to
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Bookmarked for next year.

Can’t wait
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 4/11/19 at 3:00 pm to
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It is all about experience and playing time in big games.


No experience being the guys who are relied upon. 2/3 of the scoring will be gone. Will be interesting.

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Buck Johnson’s son is faster than Harper and may end up better


Maybe, but he won't be better in 2020 than Harper was in 2019. Clearly zero chance of that.
This post was edited on 4/11/19 at 3:02 pm
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
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Posted on 4/11/19 at 3:12 pm to
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No experience being the guys who are relied upon. 2/3 of the scoring will be gone. Will be interesting.



Auburn went 11 deep, especially during the tournament. The scoring was designed to have Harper and Brown do the scoring, but Purifoy and Wiley were considered to be the two best NBA Prospects before the Pearson issues. Both came on late in the season despite not being part of Bruce's plan. The scoring will come and actually the Defense will be better. Bruce recruits to his system, not to magazines. If Okeke comes back to form by next March, AU can make another deep run.
This post was edited on 4/11/19 at 3:13 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 4/11/19 at 3:20 pm to
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Purifoy and Wiley were considered to be the two best NBA Prospects before the Pearson issues


Maybe, but not at this point many would argue Wiley clogs things up and hurts the free and fast system that worked so well.

Most teams were happy to see shooters go off the floor and Wiley come in.

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Bruce recruits to his system, not to magazines.


Bruce recruits talented kids who fit his system. Most, outside of the highly recruited kids like Okeke, take time to develop and learn.



Time will tell, but Auburn lost the core of their identity. Role players will have to become something they haven't been before for Auburn to be a Top 25 level team next year.
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 4/11/19 at 3:24 pm to
Harper and Brown are huge losses. People trying to downplay their losses are kidding themselves. There is a slight chance Harper comes back though. Sharife Cooper would be huge if we could get him and he reclassifies.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
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Posted on 4/11/19 at 3:28 pm to
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Maybe, but not at this point many would argue Wiley clogs things up and hurts the free and fast system that worked so well.



Wiley was the major force on the team around the boards. He doesn't get credit for the UK game in the Reg Finals. When healthy he is considered one of the better big man in country. Purifoy has a reputation as being a 3 point shooter and his biggest issue this year was his conditioning. With Johnson they will continue to run and with a healthy Wiley they will have a force on the Defensive Boards. Every good team has a question mark, we will see if Bruce can answer them. Most AU fans feel comfortable he will and most other fans are trying to alibi why he won't.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 4/11/19 at 3:34 pm to
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Every good team has a question mark, we will see if Bruce can answer them. Most AU fans feel comfortable he will


He's earned the benefit of the doubt.

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other fans are trying to alibi why he won't.


Not really, it's basketball. Outside of the tournament no reason to really root against anybody else.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 4/11/19 at 3:35 pm to
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Harper and Brown are huge losses. People trying to downplay their losses are kidding themselves. There is a slight chance Harper comes back though. Sharife Cooper would be huge if we could get him and he reclassifies.


Those 2 had elite skillsets that were sharpened over tons and tons of intense big time games. They had no fear to take the big shot and get to the rim. Harper was always the guy I looked at as the lynchpin for Auburn next year. If he came back I'm not sure they'd miss a beat. If he goes, that's basically a start over job (in terms of team identity and all that).

That's hard to replace. I'm sure Bruce will figure out some ways and the team will be different, because he's a very good coach. But it's tough to lose both your dudes.
This post was edited on 4/11/19 at 3:37 pm
Posted by HogFanfromHTown
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 4/11/19 at 3:50 pm to
I really wouldn't sleep on Nate Oats. That was a fantastic hire.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24823 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 3:52 pm to
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Congrats on making it, and finishing like every other team in the nation save 2.....


Pretty dumb post.

I wish people who have no clue about college basketball would stay out of bball discusssions.
This post was edited on 4/11/19 at 4:00 pm
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 4:25 pm to
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Those 2 had elite skillsets that were sharpened over tons and tons of intense big time games. They had no fear to take the big shot and get to the rim. Harper was always the guy I looked at as the lynchpin for Auburn next year. If he came back I'm not sure they'd miss a beat. If he goes, that's basically a start over job (in terms of team identity and all that).



It is more about being in a system that would allow them to excel. I am not sure either one would have been half the player they were at any other SEC School. Imagine what Sexton could have done under Bruce. Most of the elite players do not like to work at playing that type of fast Basketball because of conditioning and you are not guaranteed to get the ball on every possession. That is why Johnson was talked about at most practices this year. His time is coming.
This post was edited on 4/11/19 at 4:36 pm
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 4/11/19 at 5:20 pm to
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Pretty dumb post.

I wish people who have no clue about college basketball would stay out of bball discusssions.

Alabama hangs banners just for making the NCAAT.
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 4/11/19 at 6:34 pm to
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It is all about experience and playing time in big games.


No experience being the guys who are relied upon. 2/3 of the scoring will be gone. Will be interesting.

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Buck Johnson’s son is faster than Harper and may end up better


Maybe, but he won't be better in 2020 than Harper was in 2019. Clearly zero chance of that.



No one expects back to back final four runs. It's rare for programs even like Duke/UNC/Kansas/Kentucky. Calapari's last final four was in 2015.

We'll probably take a step down next year and rebuild with the studs coming in 2020 and this 2019 class growing into sophomores. But realistically who knows. We've got 5 freshmen coming in and a solid three point specialist transfer from memphis (Jamal Johnson). One of the freshman is a blue chip (Isaac Okoro). Okeke will be back at some point as well.

This is college basketball where the competition is absolutely brutal. Unlike football where you can lose your biggest game of the year and not win your division but still make a title game or playoff.

To even get to a final four you're going to have to beat a few top seeded teams back to back to back.
This post was edited on 4/11/19 at 6:43 pm
Posted by Bamaorbust
Member since Jan 2019
110 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 7:37 pm to
Yeah well we will be in the playoffs again in football so.... Who cares?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 4/11/19 at 7:39 pm to
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It is more about being in a system that would allow them to excel. I am not sure either one would have been half the player they were at any other SEC School.


Harper would have been a stud at any school in the country
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 8:34 pm to
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It is more about being in a system that would allow them to excel. I am not sure either one would have been half the player they were at any other SEC School.


Harper would have been a stud at any school in the country



Not in a program that sets up an Offense, uses the clock and requires it players to play inside the arc. He had a harder time against the taller guards in the Tournament, mainly because they forced AU to set up on Offense.

If you do not think that Bruce's style is reason for these players success, just look a Haron his first two years. He was the #2 guy at St John's and yet he produced less than he did his first two years at AU, when he was not the main go to guy.
This post was edited on 4/11/19 at 8:44 pm
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
22701 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 8:50 pm to
Heron was third on St. John’s in shots per game. Shamorie Ponds was “the guy” for St. John’s.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 8:56 pm to
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If you do not think that Bruce's style is reason for these players success, just look a Haron his first two years. He was the #2 guy at St John's and yet he produced less than he did his first two years at AU, when he was not the main go to guy.


Heron was used less and took less % of shots at St John's than he did at Auburn.

Sorry, Smoke beat me to it.
This post was edited on 4/11/19 at 8:57 pm
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 9:05 pm to
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Heron was used less and took less % of shots at St John's than he did at Auburn.

Sorry, Smoke beat me to it.


Played on average 3 more min per game at SJ than AU, average 2.0 per game less than last year at AU and less rebounds also. He was the #2 scorer at SJ this year.
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