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Both SEC teams that got into the SEC Championship got in the playoff
Posted on 12/9/24 at 9:45 am
Posted on 12/9/24 at 9:45 am
Much better than what you can say for previous years
However you want to slice all this, they aren't going to put more than 3-4 SEC teams in to a 12 team playoff.
However you want to slice all this, they aren't going to put more than 3-4 SEC teams in to a 12 team playoff.
This post was edited on 12/9/24 at 9:47 am
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Posted on 12/9/24 at 9:48 am to tigerskin
If any conference should've gotten 4, it should've been the SEC not the B1G.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 9:49 am to tigerskin
Because neither had a 3rd loss.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 9:49 am to southpawcock
If there were 4, wouldn't Ole Miss and South Carolina still feel wronged?
Posted on 12/9/24 at 9:50 am to tigerskin
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Both SEC teams that got into the SEC Championship got in the playoff
Because one wasn't Missouri.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 9:52 am to tigerskin
Probably, but at least it would show the SEC is recognized for its strength. And by no means did what I say meant to mean I think SC would've gotten in, it's a joke either way you slice it that the B1G was the conference that got 4 teams in.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 9:52 am to tigerskin
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However you want to slice all this, they aren't going to put more than 3-4 SEC teams in to a 12 team playoff.
This is correct. There's no official cap but 3-4 is always gonna be the ceiling most years. At that point they are going to be aggressively trying to find alternative teams.
This post was edited on 12/9/24 at 10:00 am
Posted on 12/9/24 at 9:54 am to tigerskin
Too early to tell how much of an outlier this new generation of football is, but assuming this was just an off-year conference-wide (in terms of consistency), we only need a couple of solid SEC teams to appear and dominate this thing for a season or two, and we'll see major changes again.
Just like they did with the BCS and the four-team playoff.
Every change they make is to keep the SEC out. History has taught us that in the long run, it doesn't work.
Just like they did with the BCS and the four-team playoff.
Every change they make is to keep the SEC out. History has taught us that in the long run, it doesn't work.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 9:55 am to StansberryRules
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This is correct. There's no official call but 3-4 is always gonna be the ceiling most years. At that point they are going to be aggressively trying to find alternative teams.
Yep. So the entire conference can all schedule sisters of the poor every week...but the bottom line numbers won't change much
Posted on 12/9/24 at 9:56 am to paperwasp
I mean basketball has 64 teams
Just not possible to do what people think with 12 teams
Either have a real expanded playoff or don't
Just not possible to do what people think with 12 teams
Either have a real expanded playoff or don't
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Posted on 12/9/24 at 10:02 am to tigerskin
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Much better than what you can say for previous years
Previous seasons had divisions which sometimes led to unbalanced SEC CCGs and maxed out at four CFP spots. With no divisions and 12 spots, the CCG is balanced and there's hell of a lot more teams getting in the CFP.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 10:09 am to tigerskin
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Both SEC teams that got into the SEC Championship got in the playoff
Regardless of whether you like Texas or Georgia, the SEC needs both teams to make the final so there is clear evidence that the SEC is the toughest and best conference. It would be very difficult to state that the Big deserved four teams under this scenario.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 10:12 am to tigerskin
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However you want to slice all this, they aren't going to put more than 3-4 SEC teams in to a 12 team playoff.
I think there are scenarios where 5 is possible. But that would be the upper limit.
For example, this season if Ole Miss hadn't crapped the bed against UF and UK and Bama hadn't crapped the bed against OU and Vandy, then we'd have seen 5 SEC teams I think.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 10:20 am to southpawcock
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If any conference should've gotten 4, it should've been the SEC not the B1G.
The B1G teams are deserving.
Honestly SMU shouldn’t have gotten in. They played nobody.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 10:25 am to tigerskin
The answer to all this is to eliminate the conference championship games and encourage better OOC scheduling (the exact opposite of what Bama's AD is suggesting). The OOC wins against good opponents will carry even more weight, and eliminating the conference championship games will eliminate the risk of player injury in what has become a meaningless exhibition game. Crown a conference champion based on statistics and tie-breakers, no one really cares anyway with an expanded playoff.
This post was edited on 12/9/24 at 10:41 am
Posted on 12/9/24 at 10:29 am to tigerskin
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Just not possible to do what people think with 12 teams
Yeah, our issue is the conference itself.
Even with AQs we're never going to have multiple teams that have a better record than Boise playing Nevada, Wyoming, and SDSU every year.
Which is coincidental, because one of the reasons the BCS was created in the first place is because Florida State was running through a weak ACC every year and getting awarded a national championship for going undefeated.
Basketball is different though because you can get two or three guys who can take over a game and beat somebody when you get hot shooting in March. With 105 guys on a roster and 22 guys on the field, the physical nature of football makes it highly unlikely that a really bad team could go on a deep run — maybe a first round upset, but I doubt we'll see those teams ever actually winning it all.
There are only so many teams in the country with the depth to win 16-17 games.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 10:30 am to tigerskin
It's also worth noting that every team that played in their CCG made the playoffs with the exception of the G5 team and Iowa State who went into the game ranked something like #15 or #16 and lost badly. All in all I think the committee made good choices.
The weakness of the brackets is giving conference winners automatic byes.
The top 4 teams ranking wise should get the byes and then let the conference winners get an automatic bid to the playoffs, but seeded according to their ranking. Clemson should not get a bye and neither should Arizona State.
Byes should have gone to Oregon, Georgia, Texas and Penn State.
The weakness of the brackets is giving conference winners automatic byes.
The top 4 teams ranking wise should get the byes and then let the conference winners get an automatic bid to the playoffs, but seeded according to their ranking. Clemson should not get a bye and neither should Arizona State.
Byes should have gone to Oregon, Georgia, Texas and Penn State.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 10:32 am to southpawcock
quote:Without a doubt.
If any conference should've gotten 4, it should've been the SEC not the B1G.
All this talk of SMU vs. Bama overlooks that SMU's regular season resume looks closer to Indiana's than any other at large team in the CFP.
But the CFP rankings had Indiana sitting in a position where they were going to be in the playoffs regardless of what happened during Saturday's games.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 10:33 am to tigerskin
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However you want to slice all this, they aren't going to put more than 3-4 SEC teams in to a 12 team playoff.
are there people out there that think that a commitee would ever put 5 teams from one conference in the playoffs?
This isn't a big revelation I don't think. We'll get 3 pretty much every year and 4 a good many as well. We would've had 4 this year if not for the ACCG.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 10:44 am to southpawcock
It’s not the B1G’s fault that the SEC couldn’t figure out its top 4 teams. They are both mega conferences, yet one of those mega conferences (B1G) produced 4 teams that were indisputably better than everyone else in the same conference, while the other mega conference (SEC) failed to do the same. The B1G went a step further and showed who their top 4 teams are in order. Meanwhile, in the SEC, the best was UGA, but I have no idea if Tennessee or UT is the second best, and I really have no idea who the fourth best team is.
Of course, the same thing will happen to the other conferences at some point, but it happened to be the SEC this year. Going back to divisions with round robin intra-division games should fix this though.
Of course, the same thing will happen to the other conferences at some point, but it happened to be the SEC this year. Going back to divisions with round robin intra-division games should fix this though.
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