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re: Blame the NCAA for caving in on NIL.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 10:06 am to TrussvilleTide
Posted on 1/3/22 at 10:06 am to TrussvilleTide
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3 or 4 players in the league
Sort of Ironic considering that currently there are 3 or 4 teams who are consistently in the playoffs every year or every other year
This. There are some truly smooth-brained individuals who post on this board.
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Posted on 1/3/22 at 10:09 am to frogtown
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But you need a cap on NIL to keep the league competitive, otherwise it will be controlled by one or two teams. NFL has a cap, so does the NBA. Put a cap on it.
I realize you're far too stupid to understand this but I'll give it a go anyways.
...these aren't comparable situations. The NFL/NBA has a cap on how much the TEAM can pay the players. But those players can still sign unlimited endorsement deals.
I really....truly hope that I dumbed that down enough for your level of comprehension.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 10:15 am to Mountain_Dawg
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what happens to the school? I know it won’t be end of times impact, but an impact nonetheless.
absolutely zero impact. Have you seen how much money each school gets yearly just from Bowl and TV revenue? And don't forget the new CBS contract negotiation is right around the corner. They got away with murder with how little they're paying us.
NIL money being redirected won't put a dent in those schools.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 10:17 am to ELTIGRE52
This whole system is rotten. I was a good student who had to pay his way through LSU by working and taking out ( I actually repaid them) loans. I did not get free books, lodging, meals, or anything else. Paying guys who are already being given free tuition, lodging, food, etc. is ridiculous. We also know that many players are getting other benefits as well. The fans need to put an end to all of this. If college sports are now minor league professional sports, then let the NFL and NBA create minor leagues just like baseball has done. Let's welcome some of these entitled stars to the reality of what playing for pay is really like.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 10:19 am to bearhc
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Let's welcome some of these entitled stars to the reality of what playing for pay is really like.
profitable?
Posted on 1/3/22 at 10:21 am to pankReb
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..these aren't comparable situations. The NFL/NBA has a cap on how much the TEAM can pay the players. But those players can still sign unlimited endorsement deals.
OK moron.
Endorsement deals are made by business people with an expected financial return. No financial return, no endorsement deal.
What you have here, with most of the NIL packages, is boosters incentivizing players to sign with a certain school.
I am sorry you are too stupid to see it for what it is.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 10:22 am to ELTIGRE52
There were already lawsuits challenging amateur status
Posted on 1/3/22 at 10:22 am to LouisvilleKat
Bad Form!
Posted on 1/3/22 at 10:25 am to frogtown
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Endorsement deals are made by business people with an expected financial return. No financial return, no endorsement deal.
well....yeah.
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What you have here, with most of the NIL packages, is boosters incentivizing players to sign with a certain school.
That's illegal per NCAA rules so I'm not sure what you're trying to get at here.
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I am sorry you are too stupid to see it for what it is.
irony.Posted on 1/3/22 at 10:31 am to RD Dawg
Most schools are putting all that money into resources for the players.
State of the art lockerooms, weight rooms, nutrition centers, etc. to help them achieve their future NFL goals.
Not to mention the coaches and support personnel to get them trained for their profession.
Pay the players but you are still providing a lot of resources that don't come cheap.
When they opt out they can go pay the agents and their own support personnel instead.
State of the art lockerooms, weight rooms, nutrition centers, etc. to help them achieve their future NFL goals.
Not to mention the coaches and support personnel to get them trained for their profession.
Pay the players but you are still providing a lot of resources that don't come cheap.
When they opt out they can go pay the agents and their own support personnel instead.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 10:32 am to BigB123
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Bwahaha. The NCAA will give some wrist slaps and then limp away to its hole where it can pretend to have any relevance.
Both A&M and Texas better pray this happens.Texas is already pushing the limits with their bogus "Pancake Club" and God knows what A&M pulled to get their latest class.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 10:35 am to imjustafatkid
The NCAA schools could get away with not paying players because the NFL didn’t want them and there is no other league for them to play in
That’s it.
Don’t pretend that they are fairly compensated because the schools churn an insane profit, so clearly all the coaches, facilities, trainers etc… are worth the investment because the school is making a huge ROI.
That’s it.
Don’t pretend that they are fairly compensated because the schools churn an insane profit, so clearly all the coaches, facilities, trainers etc… are worth the investment because the school is making a huge ROI.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 10:42 am to nicholastiger
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Most schools are putting all that money into resources for the players.
State of the art lockerooms, weight rooms, nutrition centers, etc. to help them achieve their future NFL goals.
Not to mention the coaches and support personnel to get them trained for their profession.
Pay the players but you are still providing a lot of resources that don't come cheap.
When they opt out they can go pay the agents and their own support personnel instead.
This is one of the unintended consequences. The arms race is over. The new arms race is a shadowy network of alums paying players legally. It stinks imo.
Those thinking the NCAA will fix this are delusional imo. The NCAA is toothless. Unless you fall on your own sword nothing will happen. And the NCAA ushered in this mindset by throwing the book at schools who tried to cooperate while proving to be toothless with the Miami and UNC's of the world. It's a perfect storm of stupidness. NCAA has 0 credibility.
Finally, once all of this is figured out things will settle back. UGA/ Bama/ LSU's of the world aren't gonna sit idly by and let A&M and Texas game the system. Their window will close with quickness.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 10:46 am to pankReb
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Endorsement deals are made by business people with an expected financial return. No financial return, no endorsement deal.
At least the Ewers deal was above board and a real ROI is expected by people not associated with OSU.
well....yeah.
Perhaps in some cases but look
at the "non profit" Pancake Club at Texas.There's no ROI there except Texas signing better athletes and more wins on the field.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 10:50 am to WorkinDawg
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The new arms race is a shadowy network of alums paying players legally. It stinks imo.
Why is it 'shadowy' if it is legal?
What is it about college football that turns so many conservative voters in the Southeast into communists?
Posted on 1/3/22 at 10:56 am to SneezyBeltranIsHere
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Why is it 'shadowy' if it is legal?
What is it about college football that turns so many conservative voters in the Southeast into communists?
The gripe about bigtime college football:
It's the same teams every year....Group of 5 can't get a seat at the table....there is not enough parity....etc
This NIL nonsense codifies the worst aspects of the current system. The rich will get richer, the gap will grow, and 18 year olds who haven't played a single game will be millionaires. Its a crazy system.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 10:56 am to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
From 1950-1973 there were no limits on the number of scholarships or the amount of years you could be on scholarships. Most Blue Bloods had over 150 kids on scholarship and many smaller schools had 50-70. Prior to 1950 you had minimal regulation which allowed for a lot of smaller and private schools to get the best players, that's why if you look at the first 50 years of CFB many of the dominant programs have since faded away into irrelevancy.
It's simply CFB history.
It's simply CFB history.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 10:59 am to ELTIGRE52
NIL Is going to destroy college football and basketball.
Transfer portal is going to destroy other sports.
True story. A family friend's daughter signed with an SEC school for swimming. Showed up as a freshman and did what freshmen do - worked hard, improved her times and competed at SEC Championships. Had a 4.0 GPA as well.
After NCAAs, someone decided that they wanted to transfer to said SEC program and to make room for her, they removed her scholarship, allowed her to stay on the team as a walk-on. During the summer, they rescinded the walk on status.
It isn't just one school or one sport. Coaches are using the transfer portal as a "get good quick" scheme. Its having a huge impact on non-revenue college sports.
Transfer portal is going to destroy other sports.
True story. A family friend's daughter signed with an SEC school for swimming. Showed up as a freshman and did what freshmen do - worked hard, improved her times and competed at SEC Championships. Had a 4.0 GPA as well.
After NCAAs, someone decided that they wanted to transfer to said SEC program and to make room for her, they removed her scholarship, allowed her to stay on the team as a walk-on. During the summer, they rescinded the walk on status.
It isn't just one school or one sport. Coaches are using the transfer portal as a "get good quick" scheme. Its having a huge impact on non-revenue college sports.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 11:01 am to pankReb
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What you have here, with most of the NIL packages, is boosters incentivizing players to sign with a certain school.
That's illegal per NCAA rules so I'm not sure what you're trying to get at here.
I see Nakobe Dean's face postered all over billboards here in Metro Atlanta endorsing products. So tell me is that an NIL deal or an endorsement deal or are they both the same thing with a different names?
So tell me genius what is the difference.
Bottom line, an NIL deal is an endorsement deal.
And boosters are using these deals to incentivize players to choose a certain school.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 11:04 am to anc
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After NCAAs, someone decided that they wanted to transfer to said SEC program and to make room for her, they removed her scholarship, allowed her to stay on the team as a walk-on. During the summer, they rescinded the walk on status.
It isn't just one school or one sport. Coaches are using the transfer portal as a "get good quick" scheme. Its having a huge impact on non-revenue college sports.
I'll add a personal anecdote- my nephew is a mid-level D1 recruit. He has to walk on at a mid-level school because (with transfers and extra elig) the team has 6 scholarships for high school kids. The big boys will continue to have somewhat normal looking 25 kid classes. It's a shiteshow for everyone else.
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