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re: Blame the NCAA for caving in on NIL.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 11:05 am to anc
Posted on 1/3/22 at 11:05 am to anc
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Transfer portal is going to destroy other sports.
Pretty sure that athletes in non revenue have been able to transfer to other schools way before the portal rules came into effect in FB and basketball.I know it was the case with baseball.
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Posted on 1/3/22 at 11:06 am to RD Dawg
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Pretty sure that athletes in non revenue have been able to transfer to other schools way before the portal rules came into effect in FB and basketball.I know it was the case with baseball.
There was always a 1-year wait if you weren't a grad student. Now you can transfer 1 time and not lose eligibility.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 11:06 am to frogtown
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So tell me is that an NIL deal or an endorsement deal or are they both the same thing with a different names?
So tell me genius what is the difference.
Bottom line, an NIL deal is an endorsement deal.
um.....yeah.
That's quite literally what it is.
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And boosters are using these deals to incentivize players to choose a certain school.
Illegal per NCAA rules. You're quite literally bitching to make something illegal that is already illegal.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 11:07 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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There was always a 1-year wait if you weren't a grad student. Now you can transfer 1 time and not lose eligibility.
This will ruin the sport more than anything else.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 11:10 am to WorkinDawg
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Most schools are putting all that money into resources for the players.
State of the art lockerooms, weight rooms, nutrition centers, etc. to help them achieve their future NFL goals.
Not to mention the coaches and support personnel to get them trained for their profession.
Pay the players but you are still providing a lot of resources that don't come cheap.
When they opt out they can go pay the agents and their own support personnel instead.
This is one of the unintended consequences. The arms race is over. The new arms race is a shadowy network of alums paying players legally. It stinks imo.
Those thinking the NCAA will fix this are delusional imo. The NCAA is toothless. Unless you fall on your own sword nothing will happen. And the NCAA ushered in this mindset by throwing the book at schools who tried to cooperate while proving to be toothless with the Miami and UNC's of the world. It's a perfect storm of stupidness. NCAA has 0 credibility.
Finally, once all of this is figured out things will settle back. UGA/ Bama/ LSU's of the world aren't gonna sit idly by and let A&M and Texas game the system. Their window will close with quickness.
The arms race is anything but over. Hell there will be more spending on facilities than ever. If you think the "shadowy network of alums paying players" is something new you are truly delusional as well. Only difference is the legal lines have gone from gray to virtually nothing. If you think the NCAA is going to come in and play Sheriff you are delusional as well, the NCAA has no real power and the schools they would have to go after are the richest and most powerful members, it's just not happening.
The only thing UGA/Bama/LSU can do is play the game as well and they will. The window isn't closing though and the sooner you start to accept that the better off you will be. There is no turning back the clock. There will only be schools that are willing to spend what it takes and those who won't be.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 11:11 am to SneezyBeltranIsHere
This boils down to two questions.
1. Is it legal for a public university to organize, train and finance a group of professional athletes under the umbrella of the university?
2. Does the source of money determine whether or not an athlete is a professional?
If the (legal) answer to both of these questions is No, then universities will have to cease affiliation, with these athletes and they will have to organize under a different umbrella. In other words, instead of the Texas A&M Aggies, they might be the Exxon Aggies, or as a minor league affiliate of an NFL team, much like MLB does. They would cease to exist as a university affiliation.
1. Is it legal for a public university to organize, train and finance a group of professional athletes under the umbrella of the university?
2. Does the source of money determine whether or not an athlete is a professional?
If the (legal) answer to both of these questions is No, then universities will have to cease affiliation, with these athletes and they will have to organize under a different umbrella. In other words, instead of the Texas A&M Aggies, they might be the Exxon Aggies, or as a minor league affiliate of an NFL team, much like MLB does. They would cease to exist as a university affiliation.
This post was edited on 1/3/22 at 11:14 am
Posted on 1/3/22 at 11:28 am to aggressor
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Only difference is the legal lines have gone from gray to virtually nothing
Please.There are gray areas all over the place with NIL
The bullshite Pancake Club at Texas is a prime example.A "non profit" set up by a group
of alumni that guarantees 50K-150k to a POSITION group? What a complete farce and it's a gray as it gets when it comes to the intent of NIL.
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The NCAA is toothless
Perhaps and it'll probably left up to individual conferences and state laws to police it.
The Texas NIL specifically forbids schools from using NIL deals to sign recruits but ironically there's no type of punishment for breaking those rules.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 11:28 am to bearhc
No one was paying to see you go to school and take tests either. Not comparable
Posted on 1/3/22 at 11:31 am to CGSC Lobotomy
I think you're right.
Had a family who transferred pre portal (baseball) he played immediately but was a grad student.
Had a family who transferred pre portal (baseball) he played immediately but was a grad student.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 11:46 am to aggressor
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The arms race is anything but over. Hell there will be more spending on facilities than ever. If you think the "shadowy network of alums paying players" is something new you are truly delusional as well.
My point on the arms race is that there is only so much $$ available. All that $$ going towards waterfalls in locker rooms is now better served going directly to players. Facility upgrades are no longer the dominate method of contribution- that arms race is over.
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The window isn't closing though and the sooner you start to accept that the better off you will be. There is no turning back the clock. There will only be schools that are willing to spend what it takes and those who won't be.
You missed my point here as well- don't mean the NIL window is closing- Whatever A&M did this year will be copied and the future will begin to look more like the past. But Kudos to A&M for striking. UGA is never on the forefront of developments like this.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 3:32 pm to WorkinDawg
Will, one thing we know is pankreb won't have to worry one way or the other about ole piss utilizing NIL deals to get kids committed, most 4* and 5* were never going to that turd of a football program anyway, lulz
Posted on 1/3/22 at 3:45 pm to ELTIGRE52
This all was caused by the ncaa's greed in the first place, they claimed ownership of peoples nil rights and made billions off them.
Seems a lot of folks comment without even knowing what nil means.
Seems a lot of folks comment without even knowing what nil means.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 3:46 pm to finchmeister08
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Billion dollar industry, and a free education is enough?
It doesn’t matter, because it was voluntary participation in a sport.
The legal challenge should have been brought against the NFL for refusing to hire people ofworking age.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 4:26 pm to Earnest_P
NFL players association agreed with the owners to make it a three years removed from high school to be eligible for playing in the NFL.
One reason because of the physical maturation of players and probably also players not wanting the competition for jobs until guys were at least three years out of high school
One reason because of the physical maturation of players and probably also players not wanting the competition for jobs until guys were at least three years out of high school
Posted on 1/3/22 at 8:08 pm to ScoggDog
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I always like it when people talk about what money other people shouldn't be allowed to earn
So, I’m sure you also agree that Walmart cashiers should all make at least 6 figures since the company’s revenue is many, many billions.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 8:30 pm to BLG
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Emmert suggested there are schools under investigation. He said the NCAA is investigating “a number” of schools for potential NIL violations.
I'm sure those schools are terrified **
Posted on 1/3/22 at 11:34 pm to FriedEggBowL
Faggies just paid 25-30 million for one class, more than NFL salary cap, Texas new QB has been paid 3 million so far and has played 2 downs, both handoffs, They are ready to pay 85-100 million a year per sources.
This is nuts
This is nuts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 11:40 pm to ELTIGRE52
Give me your boss’ phone number. I want to let him know my cap for your compensation.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 11:52 pm to GusAU
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So, I’m sure you also agree that Walmart cashiers should all make at least 6 figures since the company’s revenue is many, many billions.
They should be able to do so, sure. Just like college athletes should be able to do so.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 11:54 pm to TutHillTiger
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Faggies just paid 25-30 million for one class, more than NFL salary cap,
Do you mean the rookie wage scale? Because 30 million is not even 1/6th of the NFL salary cap.
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