Started By
Message

re: Blame the bottom dwellers for the 8 game schedule

Posted on 5/30/23 at 2:41 pm to
Posted by Guess
Down The Road
Member since Jun 2009
3768 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 2:41 pm to
quote:

How and why is it better inventory


Because Texas/Oklahoma are going to replace prime slots from mid to even some upper tier SEC schools and draw huge numbers.

You get the Red River Shootout under the Disney umbrella.

That 9th conference is going to come at the expense of a pay to play home game. not the power 5 game that SEC teams have to schedule.

Contracts are signed, and Disney has no obligation to pay more, but no matter how you slice it, they are getting more for the same distribution. Speaking of contracts. Seems the B1g's contract isn't signed, and some of the big boys are unhappy about a few things. The way that plays out will be interesting.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25594 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 2:44 pm to
quote:

Because Texas/Oklahoma are going to replace prime slots from mid to even some upper tier SEC schools and draw huge numbers.

You get the Red River Shootout under the Disney umbrella.

ESPN/ABC already had that game.
quote:


That 9th conference is going to come at the expense of a pay to play home game. not the power 5 game that SEC teams have to schedule

How do you know?
You know for certain that UGA would not back off the Notre Dame, Clemson, Ohio State matchups which are our 2nd P5 matchup on the season (sometimes 3rd)?

You don't know what you are talking about, obviously.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37490 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 3:27 pm to
quote:

I still haven't seen a legitimate argument why espn should pay more.


Because I believe the contract was negotiated before UT and OU were added to the conference and I wasn’t aware of any expanded payment for expanded inventory.

Eta
I know that they payment to schools weren’t reduced, but adding two historic names should result in an escalation in payments as each game they play is a bigger draw than say UK or USCe and certainly Vandy
This post was edited on 5/30/23 at 3:31 pm
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37490 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 3:30 pm to
quote:

How and why is it better inventory?


Because an SEC game is better than a game featuring Louisville, Ga Tech, any G5, or any FCS. That’s why.

And the MAJORITY of teams that would be going to a 9th conference game would be dropping either a G5 or an FCS school, meaning it’s much better inventory
This post was edited on 5/30/23 at 3:32 pm
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25594 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 3:32 pm to
quote:

quote:
How and why is it better inventory?


Because an SEC game is better than a game featuring Louisville or Ga Tech. That’s why.

I don't follow Louisville.

But Tech is a better program than 1/3 of the SEC and on par with the middle of the SEC.
They've won head to heads over the middle 50%.
They've won the Orange Bowl (which was the old BCS and now part of the playoff rotation).
Hell... they play UGA as tough as Tennessee and auburn.
Posted by Tiger_Claw
Little Rock, AR
Member since Nov 2013
5125 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 3:35 pm to
quote:

It's not just the money, apparently the bottom dwellers (Mizzou, Vandy, South Carolina, Arkansas, Kentucky) are voting against a 9 game because they don't want to give away an easy non-conference W to get to 6 wins.


Keep our name outcha mouf.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25594 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 3:36 pm to
quote:

And the MAJORITY of teams that would be going to a 9th conference game would be dropping either a G5 or an FCS school, meaning it’s much better inventory

Correction:
Meaning that they schedule shitty out of conference.

Their AD has one job and they fail their fanbases.

A 9th conference game is not better football.
It is by definition "more of the same".

It is a blind rotation of SEC teams.
You get a 1/16th chance of playing Vandy.
You get a 1/16th chance of playing Bama.
Hell... some of those matchups are Vandy vs Bama and people are trying to argue that as quality football that will put eyes on televisions.

People parrot stupid shite on the internet because they can't think for themselves.

Do you know who could schedule better than 1/16th chance of playing Vandy for that extra game?
Your AD.
Why don't you grow some gonads and demand better.
You are paying the fool.
This post was edited on 5/30/23 at 3:37 pm
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37490 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 4:02 pm to
quote:

But Tech is a better program than 1/3 of the SEC and on par with the middle of the SEC.


You are smoking crack. They are the worst team in the ACC, which is arguably the weakest conference outside Clemson and FSU.

quote:

They've won head to heads over the middle 50%. They've won the Orange Bowl (which was the old BCS and now part of the playoff rotation).


Not in the last 10-15 years, and with that abysmal TV contract, lack of alumni base, lack of alumni support for football, extremely tough academic restrictions, lack of NIL game, and their overall inability to get transfers or prevent their guys from transferring, they are only going to get worse.

quote:

Hell... they play UGA as tough as Tennessee and auburn.


Hahahaha no they don’t. When’s the last time y’all lost to Tech?
This post was edited on 5/30/23 at 4:07 pm
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37490 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 4:05 pm to
quote:

is a blind rotation of SEC teams. You get a 1/16th chance of playing Vandy. You get a 1/16th chance of playing Bama.


Averaged out a middle of the road SEC team is better than a group of 5 or FCS. And that’s the game that would be dropped.

quote:

9th conference game is not better football. It is by definition "more of the same".


It’s absolutely better football than non-P5 non conference games. And that’s the game that will be dropped, regardless of whether you’re playing a permanent P5 OOC opponent annually
This post was edited on 5/30/23 at 4:09 pm
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25594 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 4:09 pm to
quote:

quote:
But Tech is a better program than 1/3 of the SEC and on par with the middle of the SEC.


You are smoking crack. They are the worst team in the ACC, which is arguably the weakest conference outside Clemson and FSU.


List all of the SEC teams with BCS bowl wins and/or ncaa playoff wins.

I can wait.
quote:

quote:
They've won head to heads over the middle 50%. They've won the Orange Bowl (which was the old BCS and now part of the playoff rotation).


Not in the last 10-15 years


They beat Mississippi State's proclaimed best team ever in the Orange Bowl 2014.

Do I really need to correct you for their other wins as well? Or do you Google.

quote:

quote:
Hell... they play UGA as tough as Tennessee and auburn.



Hahahaha no they don’t. When’s the last time y’all lost to Tech?


Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt

Tech is 2-8 in the last 10 games against UGA.
Auburn is 1-9 in the last 10 games.
Tennessee is 2-8 in the last 10 games against UGA.

Isn't auburn and Tennessee part of the big 6?
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25594 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 4:13 pm to
quote:

quote:
is a blind rotation of SEC teams. You get a 1/16th chance of playing Vandy. You get a 1/16th chance of playing Bama.


Averaged out a middle of the road SEC team is better than a group of 5 or FCS. And that’s the game that would be dropped

Only if you have a shitty AD who can't schedule 2 or 3 P5 OOC opponents in a season.

Are you referencing LSU?
quote:

quote:
9th conference game is not better football. It is by definition "more of the same".


It’s absolutely better football than non-P5 non conference games. And that’s the game that will be dropped, regardless of whether you’re playing a permanent P5 OOC opponent annually

It doesn't have to be better football than 1 game.
It has to be better than 2 games.
Removing the OOC, you are actually eliminating a game of college football from existence.

You are choosing to televise Georgia vs Vanderbilt or Georgia vs Miss St over UGA @ UCLA or UGA @ Louisville (our 3rd P5 OOC game that season).
This post was edited on 5/30/23 at 4:15 pm
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37490 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 4:43 pm to
6 times since 1991

Beating the best MSU team is like beating the tallest midget in basketball. Not a super impressive feat

As far as SEC teams, without googling

LSU
Bama
Auburn
OM
UGA
UF
USCe
UT

I can’t remember if Arkansas or Kentucky has.

Also, haven’t they won like 6 time since 91 against y’all?
Posted by JayAg
Member since Jun 2021
10282 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 4:56 pm to
You are arguing with a UGA fan lol of all teams they’ve benefited from playing in the easy East the most so of course they are going to shite their britches and complain when the schedule gets harder. This was a win for everyone in the East that dodges the hard teams of the West.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7280 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 4:57 pm to
Because, unless they are MADE to, they won't...& we'll continue the scheduling topic.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7280 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 5:04 pm to
I agree that adding more teams but NOT changing the conf. game amount is wrong...but going to the OTHER end of the spectrum to play everybody H/A in 4 years AIN'T the answer either.

Not to restate it, but my plan achieved the same without impacting rivarlries & only took 6 years (instead of 4) for a full rotation.
This post was edited on 5/30/23 at 5:18 pm
Posted by RamboMizzou
Springfield
Member since Jan 2014
10165 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 5:13 pm to
quote:

Mizzou

Uh we voted for it fricktard.
Posted by RamboMizzou
Springfield
Member since Jan 2014
10165 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 5:14 pm to
quote:

dallastiger55


This dude is a fricking idiot lol
Posted by 1801
Charleston
Member since Aug 2012
6298 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 5:47 pm to
quote:

I would argue that this is the exception and not the rule.

2007 - at North Carolina
2008 - at NCSU
2009 - NCSU
2010 - Southern Miss*
2011 - ECU/CLT
2012 - ECU UAB*
2013 - North Carolina
2014 - ECU
2015 - North Carolina/CLT
2016 - ECU
2017 - NCSU/CLT
2018 - Marshall* (cancelled - Hurricane)
2019 - North Carolina/CLT
2020 - SEC 10 game schedule only
2021 - ECU/Greenville NC
2022 - none
2023 - North Carolina/CLT

8 of the 15 non-covid seasons since 2007 Carolina has played either UNC or NCSU. USC has played ECU in 5 other seasons UNC or NCSU wasn't on our schedule. Gamecocks play the tarholes again in 2023 at BofA.

that's 13 of the past 15 non-covid seasons USC has played 10 games against significant opponents. our history with ECU goes back well into the 80s both as Southern Independents.

*Southern Miss/UAB/Marshall aren't P5 but they're more significant than most programs/FCS opponents.


This post was edited on 5/30/23 at 5:51 pm
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41178 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 6:23 pm to
quote:

this whining absolutely is coming from a fan of a school whose only historical rival is Tulane.


Just remember Tulane has more SEC championships than South Carolina
Posted by Arktigers
Member since Sep 2022
341 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 6:40 pm to
Exactly!!! Too many time demands on weekends. Better be entertaining for me to devote 3+ hours.
first pageprev pagePage 5 of 7Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow SECRant for SEC Football News
Follow us on Twitter and Facebook to get the latest updates on SEC Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitter