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re: Biggest “What if’s” in the SEC regarding Football over the years.

Posted on 2/26/21 at 12:06 pm to
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 12:06 pm to
My point is that if Stafford threw for 5,000 yards and 60 touchdowns, then they may have won a national title too.
Posted by SOBMarcus
Boerne TX
Member since Apr 2020
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 12:08 pm to
Muh Colt McCoy hadn’t been “Goldberged” by Marcel Darius. Intercontinental Champions!
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 12:10 pm to
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What if the OK State plane in 2011 doesn’t go down w/ their AD in it? Okie ST proceeded to lose to a 5 td underdog with a missed FG just a tad off, the next weekend. That’s OK State vs LSU in that natty instead...if that plane doesn’t go down. Crazy.


They were up 17 points to start the fourth quarter and lost in overtime. That excuse doesn't apply here.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 12:12 pm to
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Muh Colt McCoy hadn’t been “Goldberged” by Marcel Darius. Intercontinental Champions!


The game was 3-0 at that point. McElroy played the game with broken ribs.
Posted by topcat88
Member since Nov 2015
4366 posts
Posted on 2/26/21 at 12:41 pm to
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Again you're being slippery Les Miles won that Championship with 2 losses. Something we'll never see again.


There is a better chance now of being a two loss champion than there has ever been.
Posted by McMillan
Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 4:27 pm to
What if Steckel didn't go full tardy in the 2013 SECCG.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
35839 posts
Posted on 2/26/21 at 5:09 pm to
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Intangibles don't need to be explained, whether it's luck, good fortune or the right place at the right time. Georgia doesn't flip Beck we don't get Tua. Bama doesn't win 2017 Georgia Wr doesn't catch that tip that ball in SEC championship it's Georgia vs Notre Dame. LSU being the only 2 loss National Champion but Auburn didn't even get a chance going undefeated during that same 5 year period. So what makes LSU better than Georgia right now?


SmokeTide, everybody.
This post was edited on 2/26/21 at 5:10 pm
Posted by bgator85
Sarasota
Member since Aug 2007
6101 posts
Posted on 2/26/21 at 9:12 pm to
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“What if” Cam Newton never left UF?
Does UF win another Natty? Maybe 2?
Talk about a dynasty maybe


Meyer stressed himself out of the job at UF. I think he was ultimately going to leave anyway because I don't think he can sustain himself at a high pressure job for too long, but I do think this hastened his eventual departure. Cam stays, Meyer is probably around long enough to win another title or two.
Posted by turnpiketiger
Lone Star State
Member since May 2020
11334 posts
Posted on 2/26/21 at 9:44 pm to
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What if Nick Saban chose Drew Brees over Dante Culpepper?


If I recall correctly , he didn’t have a choice. That’s why coaches like him don’t work out in the NFL. The have no control like they do in college.
Posted by FatDawg
Bedrock
Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 10:02 pm to
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A lot of talk come from Bammers about "muh intangibles"


Posted by HogsInTheRock
ARKANSAS
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 10:17 pm to
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Posted by HogsInTheRock
ARKANSAS
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 10:19 pm to
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The fish fumble vs Florida


Would love to see how the rant would handle Arkansas ever winning SEC championship. And Reggie Fish fckd that up
Posted by GeauxTigers1410
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 11:31 pm to
What if Oklahoma St doesn't blow the game against Iowa St in 2011?

What if Urban Meyer never left Florida?

What if Burrow went to Cincinatti?
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/27/21 at 12:33 am to
Nutt was never going to win an SEC title here. He knew deep inside that he would screw up in pressure moments. If Fish didn't fumble then something else bad would have happened. The momentum going into that game was gone once we lost to LSU. The collapse began.
This post was edited on 2/27/21 at 12:34 am
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 2/27/21 at 4:54 am to
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A lot of talk come from Bammers about "muh intangibles" but there aren't many hard facts and reality included.


You're poor and we outspend you at every turn. How's that?
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
16657 posts
Posted on 2/27/21 at 6:32 am to
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Meyer stressed himself out of the job at UF. I think he was ultimately going to leave anyway because I don't think he can sustain himself at a high pressure job for too long, but I do think this hastened his eventual departure. Cam stays, Meyer is probably around long enough to win another title or two.



He wrote a book about it. His wife, that ironically worked in the mental health field, warned him it was coming. Regrouping at Ohio State lasted but so long and the tighter the screws got the more he wanted out, again.

Jacksonville will be another interesting case study for sure.
Posted by turnpiketiger
Lone Star State
Member since May 2020
11334 posts
Posted on 2/27/21 at 7:08 am to
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What if Oklahoma St doesn't blow the game against Iowa St in 2011?


I have a hard time with this one. I don’t see why every LSU fan assumes we beat them in the national title game. The way we looked against Alabama , OSU would have kicked our arse too.
Posted by bamameister
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Member since May 2016
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Posted on 2/27/21 at 7:09 am to
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No it's within the context of the conversation that Sidewalker alluded to.

Wouldn't you say Georgia has just as good of resources as Alabama and LSU? Probably better quality of life around the campus also?

So what makes LSU and Alabama better?

How does LSU win championships when Georgia hasn't since 1980? It's a fair question



I'm sure facilities would be a wash for why a recruit picks a certain school. You are going to have to look at the biggest games on their schedule each year and sort it out.

Les Miles and LSU were not stumbling over Florida every year and gave as good as they got. Mark Richt couldn't master the Gators in any manner or fashion, even when Urban moved on. Zook and Muschamp being 2 good examples of just how winning and losing can be more about the mental side than the physical. This only matters when the opponent meets up with another team they can't out talent, more so if they are rivals. Which happens a lot in the SEC.

Tennessee in the 90s, even with Manning couldn't get their best teams past most any Gator team Steve Spurrier put on the field. Alabama's Mike Dubose beat Florida twice in a season in 1999 to win the SEC. A mind is an amazing tool, and in the biggest games, the best. It better be right, meaning you better believe, from your head to your toes, to a man, to the ball boy, you are the better team, and we are about to beat the hell out of you for 4 quarters to prove it. It's the only difference when you are in there with someone who has just as much talent.

Nobody in the history of college football knew the emotional side of the battle, psychological warfare, Genuine belief, better than coach Paul "Bear" Bryant and coach Nick Saban.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
68386 posts
Posted on 2/27/21 at 7:14 am to
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Miles would have had two if Saban had not returned to CFB.



There's absolutely no proof that this would have happened. You are assuming that things play out for LSU as they did if Saban never comes to Alabama or returns to the SEC. I seriously doubt it. I think had Saban never come to Alabama, Florida would have risen to be the dominant program in the conference - not LSU. The return of Saban started a proverbial arms race in the SEC that continues to this day. Meyer just couldn't handle the stress of it all and would have coasted if not for Saban's arrival in Tuscaloosa. Auburn doesn't step up their recruiting game if not for Saban's arrival. The same is true for other schools in the SEC and I think this applies to LSU. They still would have recruited solidly without Saban at Alabama but him being at a West division rival lit a fire under that program's arse and allowed them to remain a Top 5-10 program.
This post was edited on 2/27/21 at 7:16 am
Posted by GeauxTigers1410
Member since Sep 2020
1687 posts
Posted on 2/27/21 at 7:16 am to
I agree with you. This would be more of a question of how it would have effected Bama's dynasty. Would it have simply delayed it? Would if have been as strong?

Another what if is what if will Grier does not do whatever he did to get suspended from Florida?
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