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Posted on 8/25/16 at 11:19 pm to Lsuchs
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Dollars to Pesos my friend...
The exchange rate for SWC titles to fricks given is around 34:1. So we give half a frick about all 17 of those.
I'll give you a 2:1 rate on that one Big12 title.
So you are on the board with 1 frick given.
Lets dig a little deeper. A&M won 5 before the SEC even existed. 3 of the 5 were undefeated seasons, the other two were 1 loss teams. I don't see any reason not to count them.
A&M's titles vs the SEC Champ
Year / A&M Ranking / SEC Ranking (regular seasonl)
1939 / #1 / #2,#5,#16 (3 way tie) - Edge A&M
1940 / #2 / #6 - Edge A&M
1941 / #2 / UR - Edge A&M
1956 / #5 / #2 - Edge SEC
1967 / UR / #2 - Edge SEC (only 10 teams ranked in AP)
1975 / #2 / #4 - Edge A&M
1985 / #11 / #8 - Edge SEC
1986 / #8 / #5 - Edge SEC
1987 / #15 / #6 - Edge SEC
1991 / #12 / #5 - Edge SEC
1992 / #4 / #2 - Edge SEC
1993 / #7 / #8 - Edge A&M
1998 / #8 / #1 - Edge SEC
So that works out to 10 titles for A&M. And this ignores potential seasons where A&M didn't win the SWC & Big 12, but might have been the best team in the SEC.
Posted on 8/26/16 at 12:40 am to Farmer1906
SWC from 1915 to 1996:
7 National Champions
SEC from 1934 to 1996:
24 National Champions, including 9 more by inaugural SEC members between 1915 and 1934
There really is no comparison. The SEC had 2 more programs bring in NCs in a shorter time frame than the SWC has total NCs. I'm sorry man the SECrant is no place to brag about SWC conference titles and be taken seriously.
You can count all of them, that's apart of your history. Have it on your website.
They just don't belong as a list with SEC titles. Just like how many oranges you have doesn't belong on a list of who has the most apples. You are on an apple farm now, we all grow apples and always have, we don't care how many oranges you used to produce.
Especially when an aggy throws this conference title stat in countless threads having nothing to do with it to try to be at the top in something
If we annex Appalachian State I'm sure one of their posters would post NCs by school all the time when no one is asking. And we'd laugh them out of the thread, you included
7 National Champions
SEC from 1934 to 1996:
24 National Champions, including 9 more by inaugural SEC members between 1915 and 1934
There really is no comparison. The SEC had 2 more programs bring in NCs in a shorter time frame than the SWC has total NCs. I'm sorry man the SECrant is no place to brag about SWC conference titles and be taken seriously.
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Lets dig a little deeper. A&M won 5 before the SEC even existed. 3 of the 5 were undefeated seasons, the other two were 1 loss teams. I don't see any reason not to count them
You can count all of them, that's apart of your history. Have it on your website.
They just don't belong as a list with SEC titles. Just like how many oranges you have doesn't belong on a list of who has the most apples. You are on an apple farm now, we all grow apples and always have, we don't care how many oranges you used to produce.
Especially when an aggy throws this conference title stat in countless threads having nothing to do with it to try to be at the top in something
If we annex Appalachian State I'm sure one of their posters would post NCs by school all the time when no one is asking. And we'd laugh them out of the thread, you included
This post was edited on 8/26/16 at 9:36 am
Posted on 8/26/16 at 1:00 am to bullyintigertown
Taking a quick look, it looks like we are currently on our best 10 year period, 2005-2015. Since WW2, the only other competing years looked to be 1970-1980 with an abysmal 52.5% . The 2005-2015 is 52.9%. The good news is that it will keep going up if we win more than 3 games the next 2 seasons.
I'm not sure how the OP considered ties, so I just assumed they were counted as losses from a pure Win% standpoint.
If only it started with WW2, we had a good stretch from 1938-1948.
I'm not sure how the OP considered ties, so I just assumed they were counted as losses from a pure Win% standpoint.
If only it started with WW2, we had a good stretch from 1938-1948.
Posted on 8/26/16 at 6:05 am to aerodawg
quote:Bless your little heart.
Since WW2, the only other competing years looked to be 1970-1980 with an abysmal 52.5%
Posted on 8/26/16 at 7:08 am to Lsuchs
Congrats on completely missing the point.
Posted on 8/26/16 at 7:22 am to BHMKyle
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*A total of SIX current SEC programs experienced their worst 10-year periods during a time that straddled the 1940s and 1950s (Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Florida, Georgia, and Arkansas)
Guessing a WW2 effect here
Posted on 8/26/16 at 7:47 am to BHMKyle
There seem to be MIZZOU posters all over the board...but there hasn't been a single one post in this thread....Hmmmm.
Posted on 8/26/16 at 7:48 am to BHMKyle
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50.0%- Alabama (1949-1958)
Intersding tidbit Alabama had their highest suicide rates at that time also.
Posted on 8/26/16 at 8:13 am to LewDawg
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I want their job
Better be prepared to make up for hours of stat crunching with hours of excel documenting at night then.
The piper always gets paid
Posted on 8/26/16 at 8:29 am to BigOrangeVols
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Am I the only one who thinks that conference championships from other conferences don't mean jack when compared to other SEC teams?
It is a little bit like comparing apples to oranges, but not necessarily for the reasons you think. On the one hand, you have to keep in mind the differences in scheduling rules--the SWC always played a complete round robin, where you didn't win the league by avoiding the strongest team, or, as Bama did several times, by simply playing more conference games and claiming the title by winning percentage. On the other hand, the SEC was a larger league (as many as 13 teams compared to 7, initially, for the SWC), so with the disparity in numbers, the SEC champion should, on average, be stronger.
Posted on 8/26/16 at 8:35 am to BHMKyle
quote:Well, doesnt that make sense though? Teams play 3 cupcakes a year now. So, this is a good time to have your "worst ten year period" in terms of winning percentage
*As bad as Tennessee's recent period has been (2005-2014), its actually the "best" worst ten year period of any of the current 14 SEC programs.
Posted on 8/26/16 at 8:36 am to bullyintigertown
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I guess MSU didn't have a best ten year period. They aren't on your list.
My bad. I have fixed the OP.
Mississippi State's best period was from 1991-2000.
Posted on 8/26/16 at 8:38 am to aerodawg
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I'm not sure how the OP considered ties, so I just assumed they were counted as losses from a pure Win% standpoint.
When calculating winning percentage, ties are treated as 1/2 of a win.
Posted on 8/26/16 at 8:40 am to NYCAuburn
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Guessing a WW2 effect here
Yeah I guess so. I noticed more SEC teams took a break from football in 1943 than other teams.
Arkansas, South Carolina, Missouri, and Texas A&M all played football during the War. As far as I recollect, all SEC teams took a break.
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