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re: Being Discussed.. New Divisions...

Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:38 pm to
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
21771 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:38 pm to
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Any fan outside UT/Bama/Aub/UGA that favors a 6-1-1 over a 6-2 model is simply put: stupid.


Ole Miss is stupid for wanting to play Vandy every year?

Interdasting...
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54853 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:38 pm to
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Under a 6-2 model, you play teams from the other side twice every 6 years.

but which 2 teams which year. The problem is, that this will lead to greater scheduling inequity each individual season.

Like I said, depending on the ebb and flow of the strength of various programs, it would mostly even out over time, but "over time" discussions are inconsequential for the most part to SEC football. What happens on a yearly basis is all that really matters.
Posted by diddydirtyAubie
Bozeman
Member since Dec 2010
39829 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:39 pm to
I'm out of here. Auburn fans didn't cry when Auburn had to play Florida and Georgia every year while LSU got the benefit of playing Florida and Kentucky.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:40 pm to
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Pretty sure we're past that point bro.

I think he meant dawn of "next time".
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54853 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:40 pm to
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I always thought so.

Interesting. I have been personally attacking posters on here for years using implications. It is the passive aggressive thing to do on the internet.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:40 pm to
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It was grossly unfair that LSU had to play Florida the last two years. Not including LSU, Florida lost 7 conference games over the last 2 years. Clearly, they were a juggernaut that prevented us from reaching Atlanta.



I guess records since conference expansion don't mean anything to you?

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Furthermore, it was grossly unfair that we had to play Tennesee the last 2 years. They damn near beat us in 2010.


No. It was a rotation. Playing South Carolina next year and UGA losing Alabama is not unfair, just a product of expansion and rotation.
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
12447 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:40 pm to
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All that said, there's an easy compromise that will be adopted by the SEC, probably beginning in 2014. Those four schools keep their annual game, and the rest of the 10 league teams will rotate.


please lets do this, everyone gets what they want.

any teams have a problem with this?
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:40 pm to
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UGA is better than UF right now. This is silly. I'm guessing you aren't old enough to understand how cyclical SEC football can be.


You are looking at too narrow a period. Over the last 20 or so years, Florida has left UGa and UT in the dust. Hell, you could even go back further than that and Florida is head and shoulders above. And yes, I know Georgia leads the all-time series, but the bulk of that lead was built up a long time ago when Florida didn't have the demographic advantages it has now and will always have in the future.

SEC football is not fully cyclical. If it were, all-time records would all be roughly even. Consistently, over a long period of time, some teams outperform others. Florida has outperformed the rest of the East and will continue to do so for a long time. You know that. I know that. Everyone knows that.

I'm not saying that's a reason to get rid of permanent rivals, and if you don't think we should, fine by me. But take that position for honest reasons, and don't try to bullshite your way through with some claim that Georgia=Tennessee=Florida.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:41 pm to
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Interesting. I have been personally attacking posters on here for years using implications. It is the passive aggressive thing to do on the internet.



I'm not a passive aggressive person in real life or on the internet.
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
21771 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:41 pm to
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Those four schools keep their annual game, and the rest of the 10 league teams will rotate.


That's an interesting proposal.

Has it actually been seriously discussed?
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:41 pm to
Is LSU saying we don't want to play UGA? No, we're saying we would like to play them more.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
26135 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:42 pm to
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I'm out of here. Auburn fans didn't cry when Auburn had to play Florida and Georgia every year while LSU got the benefit of playing Florida and Kentucky.



Because you set up the system so you could play Georgia. Of course you didn't complain. How many times do we need to go over this, Gumps, Mountain Gumps, Barners, and Puppies don't complain because they set up the rules to do exactly what they wanted. No one brags about not complaining about rules they themselves implemented. That's ridiculous.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:43 pm to
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That's an interesting proposal.

Has it actually been seriously discussed?



You think Alabama, Tenn, AU, and UGA want to be in the same four team division? The outcry over the unfairness would be the definition of hypocrisy. Much like the OP showed and the Auburn fans responded. Outcry over the unfairness even though we're just trying to maintain their rivalries.
Posted by getback
Member since Dec 2011
2199 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:44 pm to
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It was grossly unfair that LSU had to play Florida the last two years. Not including LSU, Florida lost 7 conference games over the last 2 years. Clearly, they were a juggernaut that prevented us from reaching Atlanta.

Furthermore, it was grossly unfair that we had to play Tennesee the last 2 years. They damn near beat us in 2010.

And what is this crap that we have to play South Carolina this year? South Carolina is finally relevant. That's grossly unfair. frick that noise. That game should NOT count towards the standings. I'm sure Spurrier would agree.

Bring on North Texas.




THIS... Good God Almighty, all of this..
Posted by piggidyphish
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2009
18880 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:45 pm to
Are lsu fans happy yet? After all this is really what the whole thing shoudl be about. Between this, the refs, and espn you guys sure do get shite on (in your own minds only of course).
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:45 pm to
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THIS... Good God Almighty, all of this..


Another dumb poster living in a vacuum.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54853 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:45 pm to
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SEC football is not fully cyclical.
True. The big 6 have and will likely remain the big 6, which strengthens my argument.

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Florida has outperformed the rest of the East and will continue to do so for a long time. You know that. I know that. Everyone knows that.
UGA will always be competitive with them and UT will return as well. It isn't nearly as great of a disparity as you make it out to be. Certainly, there is some disparity but UF has struggled the last couple of years and doesn't look like it will be dominating the east for at least another couple.

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don't try to bullshite your way through with some claim that Georgia=Tennessee=Florida.
I have never claimed they were exactly equal. But neither are Bama, LSU and AU. They are all close enough that it makes since to match them up against each other if you are going to have more conference teams than conference games every year.
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
21771 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:45 pm to
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Over the last 20 or so years, Florida has left UGa and UT in the dust


The 90s are ancient history. As a LSU fan/alumnus, I've tried my best to forget most of the 90s.

And since Spurrier left Florida, Florida has 3 division titles compared to Georgia's 4 division titles.

Georgia has faltered in the big games but they are pretty damn competitive with Florida during the regular season. Though they do seem to have this little problem with beating Florida (only 3 wins since 1998)...
This post was edited on 5/31/12 at 4:48 pm
Posted by TigerAlumni2010
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
4786 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:45 pm to
Seeing a team 2 times in 12 years that is in the same conference is what I think is the main flaw of the 6-1-1 system.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:46 pm to
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UGA will always be competitive with them and UT will return as well. It isn't nearly as great of a disparity as you make it out to be. Certainly, there is some disparity but UF has struggled the last couple of years and doesn't look like it will be dominating the east for at least another couple.



Look at conference expansion. It's not just LSU, AU, and Bama. The structure is in place because of y'all, so of course you won't complain about it. It's this way because you want a rivalry game. So someone trolls and offers in the OP a suitable option, but it's met with outcry and hypocrisy.
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