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Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:27 pm to
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:27 pm to
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LSU's whining is a lot like Texas.


Yeah, that's why the SEC is joking referred to as the Red Elephant Club.

Clearly LSU wields so much political power that we're running other schools out of the conference.

Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:27 pm to
If you moved UT to the West today, the permanent opponent would go away and 6-2 would be the model.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:28 pm to
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Try to stick to the discussion or at least be accurate with ad hominems.



That wasn't a personal attack. If I were to call you a pussy, hypothetically speaking, based on your last comment, is an ad hominem. Saying that you are not smart, is also an ad hominem. But not what I previously said.
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37847 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:28 pm to
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I don't care if they lose every game from this point to the dawn of time


Pretty sure we're past that point bro.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54853 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:28 pm to
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How have you managed to convince yourself of this?
Cause it is pretty obvious if you look at it conference wide instead of just from the LSU lens of we play UF and Bama gets UT while UT is struggling.

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I feel like I'm banging my head against a wall at this point because it's nothing short of remarkable that you don't understand this.
Maybe you should step back and try to look at it rationally rather than from an emotional fan perspective.

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I feel like I'm trying to teach a fourth grader how to add fractions.
Yes, you have clearly demonstrated intellectual superiority to my elementary mumblings.
This post was edited on 5/31/12 at 4:33 pm
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54853 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:30 pm to
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Saying that you are not smart, is also an ad hominem.
Which was the implication of your post. Frankly, I don't mind the ad hominem as long as it has a basis. Unfortunately, you were misrepresenting what I have been saying while insinuating my lack of intellect.
This post was edited on 5/31/12 at 4:32 pm
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:30 pm to
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Even Auburn fans haven't been this arbitrary in arguing that its schedule over the last 12 years is harder than Bama's and we will use any kind of arbitrary date range to show superiority over Bama.

Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:32 pm to
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ETA: Ole Miss has lost 5 of their last 7 games against Vandy.

Dude, THAT'S not fair.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:32 pm to
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Cause it is pretty obvious if you look at it conference wide instead of just from the LSU lens of we play UF and Bama gets UT while UT is struggling.



No, if you look from the "I'm not biased lens" you would inherently understand that LSU playing UF every year no matter what for the sake of dumb rivalries nobody gives a shite about, is inherently unfair compared to a team playing Vandy every year. If you rotate, you would inherently undo that bias and allow the ebb and flow of program success dictate the difficulty of your schedule.

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Maybe you should step back and try to look at it rationally than from an emotional fan perspective.


You're an Auburn fan in a debate on the constants. The only person emotionally invested in this is your rivalry causing this inequity.

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Yes, you have slearly demonstrated intellectual superiority to my elementary mumblings.


Awesome. you posted a big word.
Posted by LSUsuperfresh
Member since Oct 2010
8531 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:33 pm to
If this happens, do I get to call all those who oppose crybabies? Ya'll would get the competitive and interesting games in which ya'll have been saying the more the merrier, so everybody wins!
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:33 pm to
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Which was the implication of your post. Frankly, I don't mind the ad hominem as long as it has a basis. Unfortunately, you were misrepresenting what I have been saying while insinuating my lack of intellect.


Then it wasn't a personal attack but an implication.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:34 pm to
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Pretty sure we're past that point bro.


haha good point. End.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
28426 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:35 pm to
Under a 6-2 model, you play teams from the other side twice every 6 years.

Under a 6-1-1 model, you play teams from the other side twice every 12 years.

Pretty much /thread there.



Any fan outside UT/Bama/Aub/UGA that favors a 6-1-1 over a 6-2 model is simply put: stupid.

And the only reason I think those four schools have a legitimate gripe is because I understand the tradition/history associated with those two games. I think it's fine if those four schools keep those two games and they should not be forced to lose those games on an annual basis, but there's no question the rest of the league should rotate. The SEC and college football aren't going to crumble after losing the historic annual matchups of OleMiss-Vandy and MissSt-Kentucky and LSU-Florida and USC-A&M.

All that said, there's an easy compromise that will be adopted by the SEC, probably beginning in 2014. Those four schools keep their annual game, and the rest of the 10 league teams will rotate.
This post was edited on 5/31/12 at 4:38 pm
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54853 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:35 pm to
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that LSU playing UF every year
Way to step away from the LSU lens.

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You're an Auburn fan in a debate on the constants. The only person emotionally invested in this is your rivalry causing this inequity.

My argument has nothing to do with the rivalries. Although I think keeping them is good for the SEC and college football. So sure, I have a bias.

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Awesome. you posted a big word.

None of those were big words and I even misspelled "clearly."



Posted by Requiem For A Dawg
Guff of Mex
Member since Dec 2010
11986 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:35 pm to
WEST STACKKKEDDD.....

Oh wait nevermind
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54853 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:36 pm to
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Then it wasn't a personal attack but an implication.

Are the two mutually exclusive?
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:36 pm to
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Any fan outside UT/Bama/Aub/UGA that favors a 6-1-1 over a 6-2 model is simply put: stupid.


But that's the problem. It's a conflict of interest. We need OM to vote against a structure that they benefit from. It's like having a board of directors that are supposed to police themselves.
Posted by tiger perry
Member since Dec 2009
25668 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:36 pm to
agreed.
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
21771 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:36 pm to
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Cause it is pretty obvious if you look at it conference wide instead of just from the LSU lens of we play UF and Bama gets UT while UT is struggling.


It was grossly unfair that LSU had to play Florida the last two years. Not including LSU, Florida lost 7 conference games over the last 2 years. Clearly, they were a juggernaut that prevented us from reaching Atlanta.

Furthermore, it was grossly unfair that we had to play Tennesee the last 2 years. They damn near beat us in 2010.

And what is this crap that we have to play South Carolina this year? South Carolina is finally relevant. That's grossly unfair. frick that noise. That game should NOT count towards the standings. I'm sure Spurrier would agree.

Bring on North Texas.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:36 pm to
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Are the two mutually exclusive?



I always thought so.
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