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Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:17 pm to
Posted by Tiger Authority
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Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:17 pm to
Arkansas vs. South Carolina changed so easily. But LSU is the problem. shite is maddening.
Posted by Tiger Authority
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Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:18 pm to
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Who the frick cares what happens over a 12 year period?

What happens annually is all that matters.


So we should look at the structure in a vacuum? The fact that the structure would, over time, force every team in one division to play every other team in the other division an equal amount, is less fair than a system inherently skewed to have a team like LSU play UF every year while OM plays Vandy?

Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
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Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:19 pm to
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They get Vandy, and yes, it's bull shite.


Dude.

Ole Miss went 0-8 in conference last year.

Having Vandy as a permanent opponent hasn't enabled Ole Miss to win the West. Ever.

How exactly is it unfair to anyone that Ole Miss plays Vandy every year?

ETA: Ole Miss has lost 5 of their last 7 games against Vandy.
This post was edited on 5/31/12 at 4:22 pm
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:20 pm to
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The fact that the structure would, over time, force every team in one division to play every other team in the other division an equal amount, is less fair than a system inherently skewed to have a team like LSU play UF every year while OM plays Vandy?
Yes. Because "over time" fairness is inconsequential in college sports.

The current system is more balanced than a 6-2 and more likely to lead to the best teams winning each division.
This post was edited on 5/31/12 at 4:22 pm
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:21 pm to
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Dude.

Ole Miss went 0-8 in conference last year.



I don't care if they lose every game from this point to the dawn of time and Vandy does as well, and both teams play each other to decide who the worst team is in the entire college football world, it's inherently unfair that those teams are always paired with each other as they reside in the same conference as LSU. Period. Why is this concept so foreign to you?
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:21 pm to
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Look at it again


U should look at it again. What happens when Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, and Tennessee are all playing good ball at the same time? Meanwhile some chump in the west gets to breeze through the season and stroll into the GA dome.
Posted by diddydirtyAubie
Bozeman
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:21 pm to
I'm starting to think LSU should join the Big 12 or go independent if the majority doesn't like the way the SEC does business.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
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Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:21 pm to
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Are you arguing that LSU playing UF every year is unfair? When UA plays UT? And Auburn plays UGA?


I don't much care for the "it's unfair" argument as a reason to end permanent rivalries, but it's pretty obvious that Tennessee and Georgia aren't, and likely won't be any time soon, in the same league with Florida. Florida is so far above and beyond Georgia and Tennessee, for a long, sustained period now, that to call them roughly equal is ridiculous.

I like playing Florida every year. If we have to keep playing a permanent opponent from the East, I absolutely want it to be Florida. And I don't really mind that they are the toughest team in the East and that that puts us at a disadvantage compared to Alabama and Auburn. It's good for our schedule strength and it puts us in the national spotlight every time we play them.

But let's call a spade a spade. It's inequitable. Whether that's a reason to change it is debatable. But whether it's inequitable isn't.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:22 pm to
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Yeah, what pussies complained about that arrangement anyway?

I don't know. Not me.

I think most schools wanted to rotate more cross-division teams around on their schedules more often.

Stop being such a whiney pussy about it.

Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:22 pm to
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I'm starting to think


That day is a long way off, judging from your posts.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:22 pm to
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Yes. Because "over time" fairness is inconsequential in college sports.



Fine. Let's look at it annually. Annually, LSU's schedule is ALWAYS unfair compared to at least three teams in our own division. So EVERY year our schedule is unfair. Whereas, every year, the schedule would not be unfair for LSU if we had a 6-2 rotation.

Did people take stupid pills today?
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:23 pm to
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I'm starting to think


finally
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:23 pm to
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But let's call a spade a spade. It's inequitable. Whether that's a reason to change it is debatable. But whether it's inequitable isn't.



Some Auburn fan isn't grasping this simple concept.
This post was edited on 5/31/12 at 4:24 pm
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54853 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:24 pm to
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but it's pretty obvious that Tennessee and Georgia aren't, and likely won't be any time soon, in the same league with Florida.
UGA is better than UF right now. This is silly. I'm guessing you aren't old enough to understand how cyclical SEC football can be.

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and that that puts us at a disadvantage compared to Alabama and Auburn.
It varies from year to year. In some years yes, in others, no. However, it is closer to balanced than a 6-2 system.

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But let's call a spade a spade. It's inequitable.
Sure. But more balanced and fair than a 6-2 would be to several teams each year.
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
21771 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:24 pm to
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it's inherently unfair that those teams are always paired with each other as they reside in the same conference as LSU


Guess we shouldn't have joined a conference where two pairs of schools insist on playing each other every year?



Life isn't fair.

I get what Miles and Alleva are arguing. But they don't have the votes. It ain't gonna happen.
Posted by jatebe
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:25 pm to
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I'm starting to think LSU should join the Big 12 or go independent if the majority doesn't like the way the SEC does business.
First time I ever agreed with you. But it makes sense. LSU's whining is a lot like Texas.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54853 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:25 pm to
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Some Auburn fan isn't grasping this simple concept.

Despite the fact that I have acknowledged it from the beginning?

Try to stick to the discussion or at least be accurate with ad hominems.
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
21771 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:26 pm to
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I think most schools wanted to rotate more cross-division teams around on their schedules more often.


If only we could out how the individual schools voted back then...
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:26 pm to
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Sure. But more balanced and fair than a 6-2 would be to several teams each year.


How have you managed to convince yourself of this? I feel like I'm banging my head against a wall at this point because it's nothing short of remarkable that you don't understand this. I feel like I'm trying to teach a fourth grader how to add fractions.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:27 pm to
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well LSU signed up for it...you can't be taker backers.

I'm not wanting to take anything back, but like I said, LSU signed up for Florida AND Kentucky - not just Florida.

So someone already came along and took something back - Kentucky.

And LSU had a long standing rivalry with the Cats; 53 games in a row from 1950-2002.

Nobody cares about LSU's traditions...
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