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re: Being Discussed.. New Divisions...

Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:47 pm to
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:47 pm to
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You think Alabama, Tenn, AU, and UGA want to be in the same four team division?


That isn't what he proposed.

He proposed 6-1-1 for those four schools and 6-2 for the rest of us.

At least that was my understanding of his post.

I'll let him clarify if I misunderstood.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:48 pm to
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And since Spurrier left Florida, Florida has 3 division titles compared to Georgia's 4 division titles.



And the OP offered a suitable option to allow them to continue playing their rivalry games and allow us to rotate. So what's the problem? Auburn wants to play UGA every year. Fine, move to the east and play them every year. We don't, so we'll stay over here and rotate.

Works for everyone right? Right? Oh, but no. Auburn fans are upset about the prospects of such a hard division. Goes to show how important that dumb rivalry game is for them.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:49 pm to
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He proposed 6-1-1 for those four schools and 6-2 for the rest of us.



Seemed to propose two divisions.

Why was South Carolina and Arkansas allowed to change their constant but we aren't?
Posted by getback
Member since Dec 2011
2199 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:50 pm to
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Another dumb poster living in a vacuum


Better than being a whiny assed bitch.. Even your fellow fans know it..
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:50 pm to
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Better than being a whiny assed bitch.. Even your fellow fans know it..


ironic coming from you
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54853 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:50 pm to
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So someone trolls and offers in the OP a suitable option, but it's met with outcry and hypocrisy.
I would gladly accept the OPs suggested change.

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The structure is in place because of y'all
It was the best structure to achieve the most competitive scheduling balance and maintain rivalries in a league with more teams than games available.

Other than the 6-2-1, it still is.

The rivalries are good for the conference as a whole and are important to the unique culture of college football. However, even ignoring that as an issue, the competitive balance of the schedules on an annual basis is still better with the 6-1-1 than a 6-2.
This post was edited on 5/31/12 at 4:52 pm
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18494 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:51 pm to
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Works for everyone right? Right? Oh, but no. Auburn fans are upset about the prospects of such a hard division. Goes to show how important that dumb rivalry game is for them.

We would move in a second... we voted to move but Bama, UGA, UT and Florida blocked it... We want to move to the East and Keep Alabama...
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
21771 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:52 pm to
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I guess records since conference expansion don't mean anything to you?


Is Spurrier still coaching Florida?

Is Curley Hallman or Gerry DiNardo still coaching at LSU?

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No. It was a rotation


Your sarcasm meter is broken.

Furthermore, it's grossly unfair that we had to play any school with Jordan Jefferson as our quarterback. Or Lee for that matter.

While we're listing out every injustice and inequity that LSU has had to contend with lately...
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:53 pm to
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I would gladly accept the OPs suggested change.



Awesome. Go get those AU posters in the first page on board too. They seemed adamantly opposed to it.

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It was the best structure to achieve the most competitive scheduling balance and maintain rivalries available in a league with more teams than games available.


No it wasn't. It was in place to placate four teams and their "rivalries." Nothing more.

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The rivalries are good for the conference as a whole and are important to the unique culture of college football.


News flash, literally nobody cares any more about the Alabama/Tenn game than they do about the LSU/UF game unless you are actually a fan of that particular school. It's an SEC game with big implications. The fact some teams have a term to signify it's value to them doesn't change the reality of it. Auburn/UGA isn't OSU/Mich.
Posted by piggidyphish
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2009
18880 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:53 pm to
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Auburn fans are upset about the prospects of such a hard division. Goes to show how important that dumb rivalry game is for them.


Where is this coming from. Based on a few poster, or just spouting off haphazardly and hoping something sticks?

Unlike some we want to play Florida.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:55 pm to
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Is Spurrier still coaching Florida?

Is Curley Hallman or Gerry DiNardo still coaching at LSU?



I'm not looking solely at LSU and Florida. Go look at UF's record since expansion and compare it to Vandy. Then come back and tell me it's fair LSU plays UF every year and OM plays Vandy. Or why it's fair that we can't play UGA more. Or South Carolina more.

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Furthermore, it's grossly unfair that we had to play any school with Jordan Jefferson as our quarterback. Or Lee for that matter.



jesus you're a horrible poster, where did this even come from?
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54853 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:55 pm to
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Awesome. Go get those AU posters in the first page on board too.
I was on the first page.
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They seemed adamantly opposed to it.
Nope, not all of them.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:55 pm to
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Unlike some we want to play Florida.


And we want to play UGA.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
26135 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:56 pm to
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It was the best structure to achieve the most competitive scheduling balance and maintain rivalries in a league with more teams than games available.

Other than the 6-2-1, it still is.

The rivalries are good for the conference as a whole and are important to the unique culture of college football. However, even ignoring that as an issue, the competitive balance of the schedules on an annual basis is still better with the 6-1-1 than a 6-2.


False, it was the only structure that Bama would sign off on. Expansion doesn't happen because Bama was able to convince two other teams that it cared about its rivalry. The 92 expansion revisionist history is staggering. In the search for more money, everyone choked down the only thing that Bama would agree to.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:56 pm to
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Nope, not all of them.




Then why aren't we touting this at the SEC conference meetings? LSU is touting our stance. Why don't y'all tout this divisional structure? Because we know that's why Missouri is in the East.
This post was edited on 5/31/12 at 4:57 pm
Posted by Bellabama
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Member since Nov 2009
30878 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:56 pm to
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And the OP offered a suitable option to allow them to continue playing their rivalry games and allow us to rotate. So what's the problem? Auburn wants to play UGA every year. Fine, move to the east and play them every year. We don't, so we'll stay over here and rotate.

Works for everyone right? Right? Oh, but no. Auburn fans are upset about the prospects of such a hard division. Goes to show how important that dumb rivalry game is for them.


You have to look at the majority of the teams that have made the SECCG every year since 1992 and then consider that basically, 5 of those would be in one division, and one would be in the other. There is no way this will happen.

Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:57 pm to
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You have to look at the majority of the teams that have made the SECCG every year since 1992 and then consider that basically, 5 of those would be in one division, and one would be in the other. There is no way this will happen.



But we have the constants because of the rivalries. So this allows you to continue to have them. Y'all are such fricking hypocrites.
Posted by tiger perry
Member since Dec 2009
25668 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:57 pm to
I would be in Atlanta every December
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54853 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:58 pm to
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I'm not looking solely at LSU and Florida. Go look at UF's record since expansion and compare it to Vandy. Then come back and tell me it's fair LSU plays UF every year and OM plays Vandy.
Look at LSU's record since expansion and the look at Ole Miss'. Tell me how is it fair that LSU gets to play Ole Miss every year while Ole Miss has to play LSU?

There are more teams than games. The schedule won't ever be equal. Having the traditional powers play each other leads to better games, more tv revenue, better exposure, better fan experience and more balance in the scheduling. I am also not aware of any year where it has lead to a clearly better team missing out on the SEC Championship game due to playing a harder non-divisional opponent.
Posted by piggidyphish
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2009
18880 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 4:58 pm to
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Y'all are such fricking hypocrites


And yall whine...we put up with it...so put up with us being hypocrites.
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