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re: Bama vs. Top 50 Opponents
Posted on 11/2/17 at 3:03 pm to BHMKyle
Posted on 11/2/17 at 3:03 pm to BHMKyle
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Finally a rational Bama fan.
People are having a good debate about the conclusions to be drawn from various and limited statistics so they are "irrational" if they don't 100% agree with you. Got it. This post was edited on 11/2/17 at 3:04 pm
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Posted on 11/2/17 at 3:08 pm to elposter
Hahaha I was actually melting pretty hard early in the year after the Colorado State game about our defense. It took 2-3 more weeks for me to accept we were ok.
When faced with Kool-Aid or overreaction melt, I generally choose the melt.
When faced with Kool-Aid or overreaction melt, I generally choose the melt.
This post was edited on 11/2/17 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 11/2/17 at 3:11 pm to elposter
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People are having a good debate about the conclusions to be drawn from various and limited statistics so they are "irrational" if they don't 100% agree with you. Got it.
They don't have to agree. But some act as if its craziness (I think the actual word was "silliness") to point out that Bama has had two very weak performances on offense that just so happened to be against the two best teams they'v faced this year.
It's one thing to disagree. It's quite another to call a factually based assumption "silliness." And when it leads to some saying that with Francois, Florida State would certainly be a Top 10 team.... then yes, irrational is the exact word needed to properly describe the situation.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 3:16 pm to BHMKyle
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I think the actual word was "silliness"
That is correct. Craziness is harsh. Silliness is soft.
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Bama has had two very weak performances on offense that just so happened to be against the two best teams they'v faced this year.
Also, if we are using S&P+ figures to determine our best defensive opponents, I've got some news for you........
Defense
27. Fresno State (7.53 YPP)
40. Florida State (4.48 YPP)
55. Tennessee (7.02 YPP)
64. Vanderbilt (7.28 YPP)
67. Texas A&M (5.38 YPP)
95. Colorado State (8.12 YPP)
99. Arkansas (7.75 YPP)
118. Ole Miss (8.17 YPP)
The red flag I would take away from this is deeper in the numbers.........
Rush Defense
25. Florida State (4.12 YPA)
29. Texas A&M (5.27 YPA)
53. Fresno State (7.82 YPA)
58. Colorado State (6.13 YPA)
96. Tennessee (5.13 YPA)
103. Ole Miss (7.16 YPA)
109. Vanderbilt (7.52 YPA)
112. Arkansas (7.16 YPA)
How will Alabama be able to run on the big, fast DL they are sure to face down the stretch? Florida State and A&M are solid rush defenses. They did a good job against Alabama. Down the stretch Alabama will face similar groups........
1. Ohio State
4. Georgia
5. Auburn
9. Notre Dame
10. Clemson
14. Oklahoma State
20. Mississippi State
33. Oklahoma
40. LSU
This post was edited on 11/2/17 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 11/2/17 at 3:19 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I wonder how many threads the OP will create and what stats he will use if UA beats his puppies in Atlanta. He will probably disappear for a while because the amount of crow he will have to eat due to all the stuff he has posted about how UA is basically so overrated will come back to haunt him. Because based on his logic(his determination to convince himself) there is no was possible UA can beat UGA.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 3:50 pm to BHMKyle
quote:Dude says Alabama will be shut down and might win a 10-0 type game this week..........and he's the rational one?
Finally a rational Bama fan.
frick outta here.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 3:54 pm to BHMKyle
Never worry about anything under Saban.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 4:10 pm to TideWarrior
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I wonder how many threads the OP will create and what stats he will use if UA beats his puppies in Atlanta.
I see I'm officially in your head. Good to know.
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He will probably disappear for a while
I've consistently posted on the Rant for several years. Why would I disappear? In fact, I've probably posted less this season than in season's past, despite the fact that my team is doing so well.
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he has posted about how UA is basically so overrated
When did I ever say Alabama was overrated? I've said Bama is a good team. I've said they have a massive talent gap between them and most opponents. And I've said there is a good chance these offensive struggles are corrected with more games being added to the sample... quite possibly as early as this weekend. But never did I say they were overrated.
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Because based on his logic(his determination to convince himself) there is no was possible UA can beat UGA.
Never said this. Never implied this. Quite honestly I've not even thought this. Good to know in your imagination gone wild you've already created imaginary dialogue that has never existed.
If I were a psychologist, you'd be an interesting patient.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 4:15 pm to BHMKyle
UGA is the greatest your point has finally come across. Sorry I assume for the multiple threads you have posted that is what you are trying to prove.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 5:19 pm to TideWarrior
OP is a clown who will go through al sorts of mental gymnastics to troll Bama
Posted on 11/2/17 at 5:42 pm to elposter
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Should Bama be concerned?
Nick will have them concerned. He could have written your post. Bama sucks and everybody thinks so. They are no way as good as Georgia. This team will need to go out and prove just how good they are. That will be the motivation for the toughest part of the season.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 5:47 pm to SummerOfGeorge
the long and short of it is that if LSU or Georgia wants to beat Alabama you have to keep them below 5 yards per play
Also if your offense wants to be successful you will have to average about 6.5 yards per play against the defense and your TOP has to be at 31 -32 minimum
Also if your offense wants to be successful you will have to average about 6.5 yards per play against the defense and your TOP has to be at 31 -32 minimum
Posted on 11/2/17 at 5:48 pm to BHMKyle
As Bama fans we are always concerned, with our team. Never yours.
That ball control while playing 300 players on Saturday, we should be much better.
We coming
That ball control while playing 300 players on Saturday, we should be much better.
We coming
Posted on 11/2/17 at 6:09 pm to nc14
Florida State is beat to hell .. not just the quarterback but all kinds of injuries .. 3 OL 3 WR 1 QB lost for the year in September .. 9 more players hurt for them right now too .. You guys are probably right they always sucked ??
Posted on 11/2/17 at 6:21 pm to Woodyjr42
You guys?
Posted on 11/2/17 at 6:45 pm to BHMKyle
I hate to burst the theory of the OP, but ANY team's stats are going to suffer against their toughest opponents. That's sort of how this football thing works. That's why UGA has only averaged a paltry 25 points per game against their two toughest opponents (ND and MSU). UGA averaged 365 yards per game against the only two ranked teams they've played...much lower than their average against their weaker opponents. Again, this is sort of a "duh" post from the OP. You could take any top team in the country and dissect their schedule the same way and come to similar conclusions, just like I did with UGA's schedule.
On a side note, the FSU team Alabama beat in ATL doesn't exist anymore. That team was motivated and had their All-American QB. The current FSU team has given up on the season and has been ravaged by injury. And Bama destroyed the real FSU team before they fell apart 24-7. Bama also got up on TAMU in the 3rd quarter 24-3 and let off the gas. They scored a garbage TD with seconds left to make the game appear much close than it ever was. Bama was in control of that game from start to finish. In short, Bama has dominated every team it has faced. And I expect the same outcome against LSU Saturday night. Auburn and UGA concern me, because I think they match up better with Bama. But make no mistake, this Bama team is good enough to go the distance if they play up to their potential. Whether they will or not, remains to be seen.
On a side note, the FSU team Alabama beat in ATL doesn't exist anymore. That team was motivated and had their All-American QB. The current FSU team has given up on the season and has been ravaged by injury. And Bama destroyed the real FSU team before they fell apart 24-7. Bama also got up on TAMU in the 3rd quarter 24-3 and let off the gas. They scored a garbage TD with seconds left to make the game appear much close than it ever was. Bama was in control of that game from start to finish. In short, Bama has dominated every team it has faced. And I expect the same outcome against LSU Saturday night. Auburn and UGA concern me, because I think they match up better with Bama. But make no mistake, this Bama team is good enough to go the distance if they play up to their potential. Whether they will or not, remains to be seen.
This post was edited on 11/2/17 at 6:48 pm
Posted on 11/3/17 at 8:21 am to tider04
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All-American QB
Posted on 11/3/17 at 9:08 am to tider04
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I hate to burst the theory of the OP, but ANY team's stats are going to suffer against their toughest opponents.
Yes. But Bama's "toughest opponents" include a 2-5 Florida State team who just got destroyed by Boston College, and a Texas A&M team who's staring at a 7-5 record. It's one thing not to put up huge offensive numbers against semi-decent teams, its another thing when both Florida and Arkansas were far more productive offensively against Texas A&M. THAT is a red flag.
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That's why UGA has only averaged a paltry 25 points per game against their two toughest opponents (ND and MSU).
Mississippi State's defense is only giving up 264 yards/game against other opponents.... Georgia racked up 404 yards.
Mississippi State's defense is only giving up 15.4 points/game against other opponents.... Georgia racked up 31 points.
As for the Notre Dame game, it was our true freshman QB's first ever start.... yet still no other team has scored more points on Notre Dame's defense than Georgia's did this year.
Nice try, but this was a total FAIL. Georgia's offense still had major success against our two toughest opponents relative to what other teams have been able to do against those teams. This is not the case with Alabama. The majority of teams that have faced both Florida State and Texas A&M have been far more productive against those defenses compared to how Alabama performed against them.
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the FSU team Alabama beat in ATL doesn't exist anymore. That team was motivated and had their All-American QB.
I have seen it all. No need to delve any further into this nonsense.
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